The reality of electric cars | Poal: Say what you want.

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Reality Check A BC Hydro executive was asked how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious "if you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, you have to face certain realities."

"For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75-amp service. The average house is equipped with 100-amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single tesla each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded. This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load."

So, as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This later "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead-end road that it will be presented with an 'oops...!' and a shrug.

Eric test drove the chevy volt at the invitation of general motors and he writes, "for four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine." Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16-kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.

It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip, your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to general motors, the volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the volt using the battery.

Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the volt costs $46,000 plus. So, the government wants us to pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run and takes three times longer to drive across the country.

Wake up North America!!!!!

Imagine florida with a hurricane coming toward miami. the governor orders an evacuation. all cars head north. they all need to be charged in jacksonville.

How does that work? Has anyone thought about this?If all cars were electric, and were caught up in a three-hour traffic jam with dead batteries, then what? Not to mention that there is virtually no heating or air conditioning in an electric vehicle because of high battery consumption.

If you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no gps (all these drain the batteries), all you can do is try calling 911 to take women and children to safety. But they cannot come to help you because all roads are blocked, and they will probably require all police cars will be electric also. When the roads become unblocked no one can move! Their batteries are dead.

How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams. There would be virtually no air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain the batteries quickly. Where is this electricity going to come from? Today's grid barely handles users' needs. Can't use nuclear, natural gas is quickly running out. Oil fired is out of the question, then where?

What will be done with billions of dead batteries, can’t bury them in the soil, can’t go to landfills. The cart is way ahead of the horse. No thought whatsoever to handle any of the problems that batteries can cause. The liberal press doesn't want to talk or report on any of this.

In france, thousands of taxis are now stored as inoperable because the batteries are dead and to replace them would cost more than the value of the vehicle itself!

**Reality Check** A BC Hydro executive was asked how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious "if you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, you have to face certain realities." "For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75-amp service. The average house is equipped with 100-amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single tesla each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded. This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load." So, as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This later "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead-end road that it will be presented with an 'oops...!' and a shrug. Eric test drove the chevy volt at the invitation of general motors and he writes, "for four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine." Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16-kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip, your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph. According to general motors, the volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile. The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the volt costs $46,000 plus. So, the government wants us to pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run and takes three times longer to drive across the country. **Wake up North America!!!!!** Imagine florida with a hurricane coming toward miami. the governor orders an evacuation. all cars head north. they all need to be charged in jacksonville. How does that work? Has anyone thought about this?If all cars were electric, and were caught up in a three-hour traffic jam with dead batteries, then what? Not to mention that there is virtually no heating or air conditioning in an electric vehicle because of high battery consumption. If you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no gps (all these drain the batteries), all you can do is try calling 911 to take women and children to safety. But they cannot come to help you because all roads are blocked, and they will probably require all police cars will be electric also. When the roads become unblocked no one can move! Their batteries are dead. How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams. There would be virtually no air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain the batteries quickly. Where is this electricity going to come from? Today's grid barely handles users' needs. Can't use nuclear, natural gas is quickly running out. Oil fired is out of the question, then where? What will be done with billions of dead batteries, can’t bury them in the soil, can’t go to landfills. The cart is way ahead of the horse. No thought whatsoever to handle any of the problems that batteries can cause. The liberal press doesn't want to talk or report on any of this. In france, thousands of taxis are now stored as inoperable because the batteries are dead and to replace them would cost more than the value of the vehicle itself!

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The evacuation scenario is one I've brought up as well, and it's a lot worse than you describe: in a region-wide event with electric vehicles, everyone drives 300 miles then dies.

The reason is when 30,000 people show up at a charging station that can handle 10 cars every couple of hours, they will riot and kill each other. The end.

Gas stations can process vehicles every 5 minutes. They can be restocked, and they can be self-powered. Furthermore, any tanker truck can become an improvised fueling station. By rationing, vehicles can be leap-frogged from station to station until they're out of danger.

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Electric cars are great for short trips in temperate climates..m. Like Hawaii.. where heat and AC are unnecessary... And big problems your numbers for electricity are 10x too high... The average cost per kWH in USA is around 12 cents, not $1.20....

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I don't know where this fucker lives but I hope it aint cold because those electric rates are full send gretta level retarded.

Another way to take away freedoms and restrict movements, that's all they are.

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Add to this that every modern car is designed to be remotely taken over by the cops or whoever else has the right ability and we get to a world where the idea of freedom of movement is annihilated.

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I don't disagree with the spirit of the post or dispute the information, but I think using the Volt is not a fair baseline for comparison. The Volt is 2010 technology. They have been out of production for about three years.

Did they do this because using the data from a Tesla would not fit their narrative as well? I don't know, but the author should have resolved that question for me.

The Volt is also made by GM, where their motto is: "Meh. People will probably buy this crap."

"muh made in America", when it's not.

The volt is a hybrid, which is actually better than a tesla because in theory it won't strand you while you investigate the max limits.

Yes, silicon uses less power today, but the motors, the big consumers, don't.

And a volt is intended to address the commuter market. On 30 miles that's 70% of the US commuter market. Which means 70% of these drivers would go throughout daily life using zero gas. Contrary to his assertions, for 70% of US drivers it is vastly superior to conventional vehicles. Assuming fuel use is the metric.

Yeah, it's not a bad concept. I'd certainly have more piece of mind with a hybrid than 100% electric. Still, nothing is compelling enough to make me want to switch away from internal combustion.

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I actually have an electric car (not Tesla). I didn't get it for the "environment." (Fuck that bullshit.) I got it to save money.

At today's prices it would cost me over $70 to fill up my old Jeep. My EV costs me about $15 for the same millage. Only problem is that it takes a good 40 minutes to charge. Plus you have to really plan out long trips (more than say 250 miles round trip).

Overall, I would not get another one until the technology improves because it is inconvenient.

Agenda 30, you will be limited to approximately 10 sq miles of living area, everything you need will be provided. All land outside these areas will be designated parkland and off limits without authorization. Electric cars, land and housing costs are being made unaffordable, digital currency etc, it's all designed to get to the goal. Meanwhile viruses, mass death and lockdowns are preparing the sheep for the end game.

For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75-amp service. The average house is equipped with 100-amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single tesla each.

Yeahhh... An L1 charger for an EV is indeed pretty puny, but if you only use your car occasionally it might be sufficient. An L2 charger can be configured to push up to 80 amps, but you can set it up for less, and it will still work fairly well if a bit slower. I have a 50 amp welder outlet that I can easily convert if I want to have an EV charger. Here's a list (files.catbox.moe) of how far your vehicle (this shows Teslas, figuring out other vehicles may be complicated) can travel per hour of charge up to 50A at 240V.

There are definitely some issues with having an EV. Myself, I'd probably never get a pure EV, I live too far away from the city; but if I ever get my solar system chooching I'd consider a plug-in hybrid.

They typically charge at 44A. The 75A is for their commercial speed chargers.

First off I vehemently oppose electric vehicles. With that said.

The only part of this post I'm addressing is the home charging power requirement. The highest draw receptacle needed for a Tesla charger is a 40amp circuit (at least from what I can find doing a precursory search). This isn't that obsurd given most electric ranges utilize a similar amount of power.

Most houses built in the last 20 years are already setup for the installation of an electric charger with minimal modifications by an electrician. Now, would the power grid support an entire block charging at exactly the same time? Not sure, if the charging is done at what are considered "off peak" hours, I would say yes.

Reality Check

The Jews and their Globalist Goys will take away your gas powered cars and they will NOT provide the cheap and reliable electrical infrastructure necessary to replace them with EVs.

If you aren't dead after the Great Reset you'll be a bug eating pauper that will walk or ride a bike to the labor camps. High tech luxuries like private vehicles will be reserved for the Jews and their servants in the Technocracy.

I don't know where you live, but electric vehicles are only feasible if you have a garage. If you live in a city or town and have to deal with street parking, the odds of getting a spot in front of your house vary. You would have to charge on the street, pulling the cord down a sidewalk where people are walking by and on cords. Cords could easily get damaged or stolen. What happens if you rent? Your landlord would have to hook up a charging station. And imagine if you lived in an old house or near other old, possibly shitty houses. There's an increased chance of house fires due to faulty wiring, improper installation, or improper customer use. So all these people have to instead charge in big lots where they have to be in or near their car for 45 minutes. I can't imagine all the nonsense, fights, begging, and Karening that would go on there. Essentially, I feel that electric vehicles are only for the affluent and will trap poorer people in cities or towns.

In other words, they will work perfectly for their intended purpose.

As a disabled guy I’d love to have a self driving car. Electric would be nice so it could charge for the dozen trips a month I need.

As a freedom lover I can see the horror that this future is bringing.

Though if you have to get out of town, stuck without the ability to fast refuel (recharge) , that could be deadly imho

Actually they are amazing and superior to ICE. What sucks is battery technology and the big brother technology shoe horned into them.

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