Then this is something you'll totally not like. I like most beers, unless they're shitty. I had my brown ale phase, I had my pilsner phase [that never really ends], I had my IPA phase [still going], and a good Belgian is rare and appreciated! I think that by the time most Belgian ales reach this plave, they're all old and shaken up and a pale lifeless ghost of what they were the day they came out of the brewery. But that's just because I want to give benefit of the doubt. On the other hand, I expect Heineken is terrible all the time regrdless of when and where including fresh from the brewery, but the dutch should stick to what they're brilliant at and leave beer the fuck alone. Stella Artois sucks, though. And Belgians are gay. Chimay is fucking good, though, it is true.