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One of my favorite things to point out:

“If you’re worried about carbon dioxide,” says Mills, “the electric vehicle has emitted 10 to 20 tons of carbon dioxide (from the mining, manufacturing and shipping) before it even gets to your driveway.”

“Volkswagen published an honest study (in which they) point out that the first 60,000 miles or so you’re driving an electric vehicle, that electric vehicle will have emitted more carbon dioxide than if you just drove a conventional vehicle.”

You would have to drive an electric car “100,000 miles” to reduce emissions by just “20 or 30%, which is not nothing, but it’s not zero.”

No, it’s not.

One of my favorite things to point out: > “If you’re worried about carbon dioxide,” says Mills, “the electric vehicle has emitted 10 to 20 tons of carbon dioxide (from the mining, manufacturing and shipping) before it even gets to your driveway.” > “Volkswagen published an honest study (in which they) point out that the first 60,000 miles or so you’re driving an electric vehicle, that electric vehicle will have emitted more carbon dioxide than if you just drove a conventional vehicle.” > You would have to drive an electric car “100,000 miles” to reduce emissions by just “20 or 30%, which is not nothing, but it’s not zero.” > No, it’s not.

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COAL. Want to have fun with electriccar-tards? Get them championing HYDROGEN instead of coal to power their cars. Its funny as fuck. You tell them this: Your electric car runs on coal. It should run on Hydrogen instead, then the power plant only produces steam! Perfectly clean! Where does the hydrogen come from? Easy! You can make it from sea water with electrolysis from clean power from solar and wind farms. They have absolutely no concept of the losses of each of those processes. Its awesome. I get a few of them going from time to time IRL.