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Matthew 26:24 comes to mind, regarding the apostle who betrayed Christ.
As to hell, what do you even mean? Gehenna? Tartaros? Sheol? 14th century Italian political satire?
Matthew 26:24 comes to mind, regarding the apostle who betrayed Christ.
Judas was never saved from the beginning, because he never believed in Jesus. He only pretended to. You should read through the Gospels and see the evidence for yourself. He had planned to betray him to the pharisees all along and Jesus knew it.
The Apostle Peter denied Christ three times in front of the pharisees and yet he never lost his salvation.
As to hell, what do you even mean? Gehenna? Tartaros? Sheol? 14th century Italian political satire?
hell is eternal separation from the Lord for all those who rejected Christ as their saviour.
Revelations 20:15 KJV
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
A true believer in Christ is written into the book of life. I will still be judged by God according to my works, but I will never lose my salvation.
Gehenna, Hades, Purgatory, etc is all made up pagan hogwash from false teachers pretending to be Christians. None of this is rooted in the Bible (the real one i.e. 1611 KJV, not false versions)
You either trust in yourself to get saved, or you put your faith 100% in Jesus no matter what.
Unfortunately, it still sounds like you are trusting in yourself to justify your faith.
Salvation is by grace through faith alone, and once saved always saved.
Judas was never saved from the beginning, because he never believed in Jesus. He only pretended to
This is a No True Scotsman fallacy. You're arguing that if someone believes in Jesus, they're forever saved no matter what they do...and if they act like a backstabbing weasel, then conveniently they never truly believed in Him and were lying all along.
In addition to being a fallacy on that count, your premise is ALSO fallacious because it's unfalsifiable. There is no observable standard to (dis)prove it without the ability to read minds.
Gehenna, Hades, Purgatory, etc is all made up pagan hogwash from false teachers pretending to be Christians.
Gehenna is explicitly mentioned in the Bible, along with Tartaros and Sheol. The KJV is an excellent translation in most areas, but it pervasively mistranslates and conflates those three into "hell" in the KJV. Which is likely what's confusing you if you've never picked up a concordance or different translation to spot that these are completely different words in the original texts.
You're spot on about Purgatory and Hades though - those are indeed hogwash made up by Catholics and pagans respectively.
John 6:70 KJV
7 Jesus answered them, "Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?”
John 6:64 KJV
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
^ Jesus knew from beforehand that judas never believed, would not believe, and would eventually betray him.
So no, he was never saved. Why do you think judas was ever saved at one point? If you never believe, then you can't ever get saved. At that's what happened to judas
Once saved, always saved.
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