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Prophecy is a tricky area of theology at the best of times. I think it's best to read it, know what is said, and then focus on worshiping Him as best as you are able without getting mired down in "Well is this the mark of the beast?" or "Is this person the Anti Christ?". It's enough to know the end from the beginning without trying to comprehend the future with our overclocked 3 pound brains. Trust that He is in control, and know that you are in good hands.

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I just know I'm gonna have to deal with pro Israel Christian zios later, and it's all gonna be muh plan for God's chosen people... Ignoring they are fake jews that hate them and view them as cattle

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I'll repost my take on Jews that I typed up earlier. Might put it into better context, and why most modern "churches" get their theology wrong.

Jews ARE the chosen people, however, they take the meaning literally and not understanding the true meaning. Jews were selected as the transmission source for God's word through the early part of history. The reason for this is they are a deeply flawed, selfish, unrighteous, evil people who not only turned on God and betrayed his love throughout their own history, but also epitomized this by murdering Jesus Christ on a torture cross.

Being the chosen people in this case is not a badge of honor. You were chosen as an example of showing WHY humanity is judged how it is, and why we need His love to save our souls.

No one is righteous. No, not even one. All fall short of the glory of God. Jews especially.

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I've favored that perspective, illustrating grace we don't deserve, but I'm not convinced modern jews are the legit jews, but the synagogue of Satan. Even in the times of Christ, the Edomites had infiltrated (king Herod)

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Well said. We do not know Gods time.

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It's also VERY subjective until in hindsight. I challenge anyone to read Isaiah, with a blank mind to the events of Jesus's death, and try to foresee how the events went down. There's no way. Even his own disciples couldn't fathom how things unfolded, and they were well versed in the entire Torah, Isaiah included. It's best for us to know and expect certain key events will happen, but not sit there watching every little world event as if Jesus will return in the next 5 minutes. At this point, the temple hasn't even BEGUN to be rebuilt.

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I need to check out more of this guy. Who would you identify as Babylon? America?

Who would you identify as Babylon? America?

Yes.

Check out allthepreaching.com for New IFB sermons and documentaries.

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Or the Catholic Church?

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Ultimately the book is about perseverance until the judgment, which echos what Christ says in the gospel. Those who persevere will be saved.

Ultimately the book is about perseverance until the judgment, which echos what Christ says in the gospel. Those who persevere will be saved.

False. Salvation is by faith alone, and once saved always saved. As a believer in Jesus, we have overcome through our faith in Christ. I think you are interpreting Revelations incorrectly.

Revelation 3:20-21 King James Version

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

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Matthew 24:9-14, Revelation 2:26

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What's your point? In Matthew 24:9-14, he is describing saved Christians who will endure to the end, because they are already saved. Salvation is by faith alone. Sounds like you believe in works-based salvation.

You need to hear the Gospel and get saved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0y_toNT0zQ (vid8 link is down)

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21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7

14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 2 Peter 3

10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
2 Peter 1

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I've had half a bottle of wine so may not be up to par for this much typing.

> I just know I'm gonna have to deal with pro Israel Christian zios later

The Bible itself gets tricky. There are 3 Abrahamic religions all because of a family feud back in the day. It began with Jacob and Esau....well, technically it began with Adam and Eve. Eve was seduced by Satan. Satan is most likely androgynous and had sex with both Adam and Eve. Some think Adam was the first cuck. This last part really depends on perspective and which texts you read. Either way Eve got pregnant by both. Cain and Abel. Cain is the bloodline of the serpent. Long story short, they eventually become known as the Canaanites. Now getting back to Jacob and Esau. After a family feud, Esau mixed with the Canaanite bloodline. This is ultimately where the modern jew comes from. They think they are the chosen ones. They are the descendants of Esau, who gave up his inheritance. The true descendants of Jacob are Whites. As far as my research goes there were at least 2 times that the Israelites split. Once when Moses freed them. Some jumped on ships. I believe it was the tribe of Dan, but don't quote me. I've been drinking. I'd need to look at my notes. They went to Europe and named everywhere they settled after their tribe. Denmark and Danube for example. The other time was the first time the temple of Solomon was destroyed. The Israelites forgot who they were during the dark ages. God always had a problem with them turning to paganism (worshipping nature and his creation rather than him). This is why the disciple's were sent to Greece and into the general direction of Europe. Jesus/Yashuah said his sheep would hear his voice and follow. Only Whites heard and ceded to his message. It was at this time the Babylonian>Egyptian>Catholic Church took control of the growing Christian population. This is when the modern Bible was (((created))). Using their control of money the descendants of Esau/jews eventually take the title of God's chosen from the descendants of Jacob/Whites. Only Whites fulfill all the prophecies such as being a blessing wherever they go. I'm not going into all of them in this post. With all of this being said, jews are NOT the chosen ones. They are the synagogue of satan. You can polish a turd all day long and call it a diamond. In the end it's still a turd. jews do not exhibit any of the attributes of God or Jesus/Yashuah. They are not caring, nurturing, loving beings. They seek to only steal, kill, and destroy. They covet the original land that was given to Jacobs descendants without every realizing that Israel is the people, not the land.

As far as Revelation goes I'm on the fence about it. I can see it going in 2-3 directions. It could be a play by play, astrologically accurate timeline for a major reset event. Complete with detailed descriptions of what to expect. The next one will be here within the next 23 years most south of the equator will be safe. It's a possible reason for clearing out south America and specific other locations, but that's for a different post. All in all though, I do believe we are in the end times.

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Some say astrologically it does line up with the signs in the heavens

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Basics:

  • The described events of the Book are about the jews taking over the world after Christ Raptures out the Christians and the subsequent fallout.
  • None of the events therein have or will happen prior to Rapture.
  • The Antichrist will be of a jewish father and gentile mother, and his role will be to “fulfilll the prophecies” that the Talmudic interpretation of the Torah has laid down - war mongering and financial power with Israel at the top of the heap.
  • It showcases the spiritual echo of the Flood in that mankind at the Flood had been physically overcome with demonic infusion (Nephilim of Genesis 6), while the world will have become spiritually overcome with demonic infusion. Additionally, the world was once baptized with water at the Flood, and will be baptized with Fire in Revelation.
  • There will be a literal 1000 year reign of Christ on a restored Earth (Satan will be bound during this time), and there will be believers and unbelievers even under Christ’s direct theocratic rule.
  • The worshippers of Satan (Magog) and the Serpent himself (Gog) will gather upon his release and revolt against Christ, only to be quickly and summarily defeated, once and for all.
  • Babylon is the amalgamation of sensuality, materialism, humanism, and an allegiance to this life. The whole world will be part of it during the Tribulation.
  • The Whore of Babylon is apostate Israel, as spoken by the prophet Hosea. She exchanged a love of God for a love of wealth and things.
  • The 144,000 will be a purified remnant of Abraham’s descendants, but must be so in spirit and blood.
  • The symbol known as “666” is not a numerical value, but rather the Greek symbols of Chi Xi Sigma (χξς) which represent the three translations inscribed above Christ’s head on the Cross “King of the Jews” in Greek, Latin and Hebrew, symbolizing everybody swearing allegiance to the false Messiah, the “King of the Jews.”
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How about the tribulation. Will those in the first 3.5 years be able to be saved? ... I was raised dispensationalist (non denominational)

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The Revelation timeline of the Tribulation is, according to scripture, “time, times, and half a time” (Rev 12:14), which is only 3.5 years. That’s all that’s left. It’s the second half of the 70th Week (seven year period) from Daniel, and the first half of it occurred during Christ’s earthly ministry.

As for the potential for salvation during the Tribulation, those who refuse the Mark of the Antichrist, and do so out of the conviction of belief in the true Christ, will be eternally saved, and likely captured and executed for their acceptance of Christ and rejection of Antichrist. This is a blessing, however, as this will give them relief from the bowls of judgment.