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In my area, there is this concept that one can pray away any bad situation and do absolutely nothing to achieve a result. This concept is foreign to me because nowhere in the OT or the NT is such a concept found. The book of James clearly shows salvation is tied to works, in that one is saved by Grace alone, but extended through works. The OT has no story about faith alone, every story is set up to show faith operates through works done by an individual or group. So where does this concept of grace with no works come from? Both are tied to each other, and throwing a universalism idea on top of the Bible that anything can be prayed away just makes Christians easy pickings for other groups looking to subvert Christianity. Ironically, coming from the midwest, i couldnt find such a concept being practiced by any church i went to. This universalistic, pray away your problem only seems to exist in super liberal states

In my area, there is this concept that one can pray away any bad situation and do absolutely nothing to achieve a result. This concept is foreign to me because nowhere in the OT or the NT is such a concept found. The book of James clearly shows salvation is tied to works, in that one is saved by Grace alone, but extended through works. The OT has no story about faith alone, every story is set up to show faith operates through works done by an individual or group. So where does this concept of grace with no works come from? Both are tied to each other, and throwing a universalism idea on top of the Bible that anything can be prayed away just makes Christians easy pickings for other groups looking to subvert Christianity. Ironically, coming from the midwest, i couldnt find such a concept being practiced by any church i went to. This universalistic, pray away your problem only seems to exist in super liberal states

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Peter called on Jesus Christ to heal a person, which is much more than what the common Christian does today. Nowadays, people see prayer as a get rich scheme, where you say some words, do some motions, and hey presto, prayer answered. They don't really have a connection with God himself, people much more idolize a God of their own beliefs, over actually believing in God himself.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Peter called on Jesus Christ to heal a person

No, you are twisting what it says. Peter doesn't talk to Jesus, ask Him anything, or order/command/beseech anything. The imperative is "WALK" and it's directed at the cripple. Of course Peter is a man of prayer and fellowship with Jesus, but don't read into the text something that isn't there.

If you want another example, consider Acts 14:8-10. Paul says "stand up" without any record of him praying before or directing anyone towards God/Jesus.

Perhaps you should be commended for your faith and prayer life. Your ability to reason and read the Bible at face value are lacking.

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I love how people grab one specific verse that fits their message exactly and they live exactly to that verse.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I love how people grab things out of their ass that completely contradict scripture and refuse to admit their error when faced with the simplest counterexample.

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The verse you quoted was from a chapter explaining faith and how God requires nothing of you other than faith in Him.