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How would one go about consolidating Romans 13 and Rev 14:6-11?

A good Christian must submit to authority and yet the mark will come from a place of authority and is a sin to take.

How would one go about consolidating Romans 13 and Rev 14:6-11? A good Christian must submit to authority and yet the mark will come from a place of authority and is a sin to take.

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The authority we are expected to obey must be lawful.

US citizens are certainly allowed to balk at 'mandates', whether from the executive OR judicial branch.

We have a Bill of Rights. Medical Autonomy is yours.

Yesterday was its 230th anniversary. (crickets).

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Render unto Cesar that which is Cesar's and unto God that which is God's

This one verse is all you need. The official interpretation is that you must submit to man's authority on earthly subjects and you must submit to God's will in all other matters.

The subject of preserving the sanctity of your body as a temple to the Lord is a spiritual matter and therefor it is God's law that must be submitted to even if this means defying the laws of men.

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Read verse 7. I dont owe Satan or like-minded politicians a thing.

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Could you clarify? Romans 13:7 or Revelations 13:7 or 14:7?

Romans 13:7, KJV: "Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour."

Rev 13:7, KJV: "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations."

Rev 14:7, KJV: "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."

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Sorry for the ambiguity. Romans 13:7:

Romans 13:7, KJV: "Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour."

What is due to Satan? What is due to his servants? What is due to worshippers of Moloch? Not respect and tribute, assuredly.

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I agree. We render allegiance and tribute to those it is DUE.

We do not honor evil. Ever.

13:7 is not a bend over and get raped clause.

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Surely not. Well I suppose that answers that, thank you.