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I have Christian friends and acquaintances that believe all jews go to heaven because God "chose" them.

I ask them to read Acts 2, and think critically. Remember, that's not Peter talking. He and the other apostles were "filled with The Holy Spirit...the Spirit gave them utterance."

The Holy Spirit is God. He was speaking directly to the jews gathered for Pentecost.

In Acts 2:38, God tells everyone---jew and gentile alike---what they have to do to be saved. He doesn't say "Everyone has to do this, except for the jews, My Chosen People, who get a free ride."

(And why would any Christian want to be in the same "heaven" with people like Harvey Weinstein or Jeffrey Epstein?)

I have Christian friends and acquaintances that believe all jews go to heaven because God "chose" them. I ask them to read Acts 2, and think critically. Remember, that's not Peter talking. He and the other apostles were "filled with The Holy Spirit...the Spirit gave them utterance." The Holy Spirit is God. He was speaking *directly* to the jews gathered for Pentecost. In Acts 2:38, God tells everyone---jew and gentile alike---what they have to do to be saved. He doesn't say "Everyone has to do this, except for the jews, My Chosen People, who get a free ride." (And why would any Christian want to be in the same "heaven" with people like Harvey Weinstein or Jeffrey Epstein?)

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[–] [deleted] 3 pts

There's a lot to unpack. Let me start at the end.

(And why would any Christian want to be in the same "heaven" with people like Harvey Weinstein or Jeffrey Epstein?)

This question betrays a complete ignorance of the gospel of grace. Are those men accused/guilty of greater sins than you or I? Of the two men who went into the temple to pray (Luke 18:10), are you not acting like the former?

We were ALL dead in our sins, deserving of permanent exile from a Holy God because of our rebellion. Only by God's mercy and grace do we have the opportunity to spend eternity knowing Him, through the sinless life, unjust death, and self-resurrection of Christ Jesus.

More below.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

all jews go to heaven

Romans 9 speaks directly to this. Acts might be helpful in a supportive sense, but the meat is in Romans. Also 11:11 and following.

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I didn't say they're not capable of attaining God's mercy. I don't think they have as of yet, but that's between them and God.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

That doesn't really follow from what has been written so far in this thread. My initial resistance was against language that suggests ... well, a lot of things, including that we somehow get to judge the righteousness of others, or have a say in who gets saved, or determine the weight of a given sin (pedo, sex assualt, etc.)

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We don't get to choose who receives God's mercy, but we're supposed to judge. Jesus judged others, and we're supposed to be Christ-like. But like He said, we're supposed to judge ourselves first, because we're going to be judged by that same measure.

I'm not a child molester, so I feel I can place judgement on people who molest children.