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This is an interesting one, relating to what Romans says about governments. More specifically Romans 13:1-2, with the topic being mask mandates.

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. "

My explanation is that this ONLY works in a christian homogenous setting, like in the time of yonder, and does not apply to apostate states. I'm still new to Christianity, so my interpretation is based purely on what I read in Kings and Numbers, as well as Deuteronomy and Exodus. Their interpretation though was that Christians are to be accepting of other people.

My opinion on the matter was that I am NOT responsible for people who are afraid of their own shadows, and hence the concept of being nice to others no longer applies when malice and manipulation are at play. Anyways, I pissed them off for a while, but I'd like peoples' take on this one.

This is an interesting one, relating to what Romans says about governments. More specifically Romans 13:1-2, with the topic being mask mandates. >"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. " My explanation is that this ONLY works in a christian homogenous setting, like in the time of yonder, and does not apply to apostate states. I'm still new to Christianity, so my interpretation is based purely on what I read in Kings and Numbers, as well as Deuteronomy and Exodus. Their interpretation though was that Christians are to be accepting of other people. My opinion on the matter was that I am NOT responsible for people who are afraid of their own shadows, and hence the concept of being nice to others no longer applies when malice and manipulation are at play. Anyways, I pissed them off for a while, but I'd like peoples' take on this one.

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[–] • 5 pts (edited )

Read the rest of Romans 13. It clearly defines what a ruler is and what his (or its) responsibilities are.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

If the person or government claiming the mantle of ruler is not a terror to evildoers but instead a terror to good, then it's authority is falsely held and there is no obligation to obey.

render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's

There is no obligation to abide commands outside the scope of the ruler's authority even if he is just in other ways.

[–] • 4 pts

This. I'm certain God doesn't want us to follow leadership provided by the synagogue of satan.

[–] • 2 pts

Came here to say this. I would only add, that by cooperating with an evil government, you are endorsing and facilitating their actions. We are not just dealing with a government that makes rules we do not like. We are dealing with a group of people trying to make themselves the god in your life. To give them control over parts of your life they have no right to is to help them take those rights and more from other people. When the government stops fulfilling it's role (to be the minister of God) then our real duty would be to install someone who does the job correctly.

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

"...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

"nah bro not the same thing because..."

"...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. doesnt say who is meant to do it to us or why. It does say you will take the mark willingly

"Oh no, i wont take the mark, you could kill me but i wont take it, but thats not the mark"

my government is forcing these conditions on me. they are breaking the laws that they had previous enacted to prevent exactly this. they are no longer acting within the laws they created, nor are the acting within gods law or protecting the people, therefore my government is not acting within his word and i have no obligation towards them. my duty is to God and my neighbours.

[–] • 1 pt

There's also the Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates. An example are the midwives that disobeyed Pharaoh by not killing the Hebrew boys as Pharaoh commanded.

[–] • 3 pts

And abortions, it contradicts the bible completely, and yet Christians still try to play in the legal confines of satanic perversion. I just want to scream sometimes and be like STOP TRYING TO COMPROMISE WITH SATAN, you never win, you only shift the power structure further to the depths of depravity. It's like a shit test, and we are failing hard. The bible does not say just STFU, do nothing, and let your enemies slaughter you.