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That is not to say they aren't nice people, but it seems like the non fundamental Christian religions sort of have this license to sin type of clause in their denomination. They believe that Jesus died for their sins so all they need is to ask for forgiveness, and hey presto, we're good. There doesn't really seem to be this attenuation to become a better person or anything, which ends up causing a lot of Christian women and men to become even more reckless than the atheists in their actions. It's weird, and may just be a local phenomenon

That is not to say they aren't nice people, but it seems like the non fundamental Christian religions sort of have this license to sin type of clause in their denomination. They believe that Jesus died for their sins so all they need is to ask for forgiveness, and hey presto, we're good. There doesn't really seem to be this attenuation to become a better person or anything, which ends up causing a lot of Christian women and men to become even more reckless than the atheists in their actions. It's weird, and may just be a local phenomenon

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Jesus said that his kingdom was not of this earth. He also said that all have fallen short of God's standard. He said that only God, who is without sin, may judge. And he said that we are redeemed by faith, not works, which are but filthy rags before God. Therefore, it is entirely biblical to do whatever the hell you want, so long as you openly accept Christ as your redeemer, you are saved. This (ignoring the Bible) is essential, because a lot of Jesus's advice is impractical. Being submissive and subservient to your enemies, putting yourself in poverty, welcoming in hostile foreigners from strange lands not only into your lands but also offering them shelter in your very homes, etc. All of this would have brought the end of Christianity soon after the Bible was compiled if it wasn't the standard to ignore the words of Christ for most of Christian history.

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What do you think of Quakers?

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I'm not super familiar with their teachings, so cant say

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The pilgrims. Forebears of America.

Against swearing, war, women are fairly equal, no human bondage, no booze

Completeness of the Christian Character as exemplified by Christ. To sin results in spiritual death.

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That sounds pretty based to me

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I have a kernel of God inside me so when I call you a faggot it is a divine proclamation.

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...I'm gonna say this a lot from here on out

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Is that what they think?

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I've always found the "license to sin" thing of modern pop-Christianity to be a bit odd.

The churches I've engaged with as an adult have focused on this -

  1. Salvation frees from the deathly burden of sin and cannot be earned or revoked once given, but is paltry when viewed from an eternal perspective.
  2. Salvation aside, sin is a hinderance to accessing God on a personal level, aka being filled with His Spirit.
  3. Doctrinal teaching makes us aware of our sin and how to function both in avoiding sin and pursuing righteousness.
  4. Sin must be confessed directly to God, followed by repentance and pursuit of righteousness as prescribed by biblical doctrine.
  5. The value of the life of righteousness and spiritual maturity is a demonstration to God of how we value our salvation. In essence, it's the gift we give back to God as gratitude, much like the present you give your mother for her birthday - it will be loved and accepted no matter how small, but we will be more fulfilled by the greater gift we can give in response.
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Lutherans are OG Christian. Look up CP Walther.

Our take on this is that the life of the saved individual sins less, as that demonstrates the holy spirit is working within

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CF Walther? Carl Ferdinand Wilhelm Walther

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21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7 KJV