That's a very common protestant slander that the Church sold indulgences or that the Church is hoarding wealth etc. The RC Church has never approved the selling of indulgences. It can't sell indulgences. A Catholic who understands what indulgences are understands that they can't be sold. If you were to buy an indulgence it would merit you nothing.
Even if a Pope sold an indulgence it wouldn't be heretical. It would be a sin of simony. Not heresy. In order to be a heretic you have to reject a dogma of the Catholic faith.
The RC Church has never approved the selling of indulgences.
Yes, I agree. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen, because it did.
In my original comment, I am stating that I believe the writer is making the case that people doing bad things in the church would never have happened prior to V2. I don't think that is correct. Many people did bad things prior to V2. that is my point. Sure, I totally agree with you that the church has never officially sanctioned sinful behavior (at least prior to pope Francis, anyway), but to state that sinful behavior was "unimaginable" prior to V2 is, in my opinion, silly.
Where did the writer state that the hierarchy of the Church prior to VII were sinless?
You took what the writer said out of context from your original comment. He is talking about heresy. Joe Biden is not Catholic by any means. Joe Biden's heresy is what is dividing the VII sect. Some think he is a heretic and some don't.
It is clear that Novus Ordo clergy and laity are divided not merely in accidentals and on minor concerns but on the most fundamental issues with regard to Joe Biden. This would have been unimaginable before the Second Vatican Council (1962-65), which was veritably the “Great Reset” for Catholicism.
Read from the following link. Same writer: https://novusordowatch.org/2019/10/bad-popes-objection/
Here's an excerpt:
To appreciate how important and serious this difference is between bad Catholic and non-Catholic, let us take a look at one of the most immoral Catholic Popes in history: Pope John XII, who reigned from 955 to 963. Prince Octavian (his birth name) was only 16 years of age when elected, and he was a complete moral reprobate
I truly appreciate you taking the time to have a thoughtful, intelligent discussion. It is much appreciated, and sadly, quite rare these days.
I see your point, but I still disagree. There have been many periods of turmoil and heresy within the history of our Church, and to say that something would have been "unimaginable" prior to V2 simply is not correct. There have been many worse things than "division ... on the most fundamental issues" in the history of our Church.
In all honesty, this is just a minor point within the article, and probably not worth all the commotion we are making about it :)
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