I am very curious about this. Can you please explain who was the last real pope and why anyone after him was not real? I am not trying to be argumentative, as I do have questions about V2, but I am just trying to honestly understand the sedevacantist position.
Depends on who you ask but most sedevacantists agree that Pope Pius XII was the last true Pope. He died in 1958. The man that came after him was John XXIII (Roncali). It's widely believed he was a freemason. He was a modernist heretic like the other VII antipopes. The liberal press made a huge deal about him and called him the "Good Pope" because he was one of them, a liberal. He opened the VII council. He took the name "John XXIII" which happens to be the same name of an anti-pope from the 15th century. There was funny business at the 1958 conclave that elected him. Many believe Cardinal Siri was elected Pope but was forced out. A CIA agent testifies to this. There was outside interference.
Here is some more info about Roncali: https://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/13_JohnXXIII.pdf
Roncali didn't last long due to his health and those who picked him used him as a stepping stone to Paul VI (Montini) who came after him. Paul VI did the most damage. His ancestors were jews. Montini wore the jewish ephod. He closed out the VII council which created a new religion that isn't Catholic, but more similar to Freemasonry and Protestantism. All these so called Catholic Churches you see everywhere teach this VII religion. It's not Catholicism. Montini outlawed the traditional Latin Mass and created the invalid freemasonic protestant novus ordo "mass". It resembles the "mass" Luther created. It's not Catholic. It doesn't have the Sacrifice of the mass. It's centered on man and not Christ.
https://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/paul-vi-photo-gallery/
This guy explains well what happen: https://novusordowatch.org/start-here/
These guys have interesting information: https://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/vatican-ii-exposed
It's all been prophesied what has happen in the past 50 years and what is to come.
"The Church will be in eclipse" and "Rome will lose the Faith and will become the seat of Antichrist." Our Lady of La Salette
Thank you very much for the reply, and for putting some time into writing it. Much appreciated.
I will take a look at the links. Our priest has the Tridentine Mass at our parish, but we go to the Novus Ordo (ad orientum). I have tried the latin Mass for years, but I just can't get into it. I truly love the people that attend the latin Mass, and their faith is certainly stronger than mine. I remember years ago learning that there was a vernacular translation of the Tridentine that was approved for a while (just prior to V2), and boy I would love that, but not sure why that didn't last.
Not sure what you mean by you can't get into it. The thing is, the congregations doesn't perform the mass. The priest does. Yes, the congregation assist at mass by praying and of course receiving communion, but that's it. None of this singing, clapping, and holding hands. That's protestantism. Part of the reason the priests face ad populum, why the altar rails were removed, why women, men, and children are in the sanctuary next to the priests, why you have "eucharistic ministers", why there is this protestant call and response in parts of the mass, why the choir is singing parts of the mass, why men and women are lecturing, etc. is to destroy the priesthood. Only consecrated hands can touch the host. Only priests, deacons, altar servers can go up into the sanctuary. Laity are not supposed to go pass the altar rail. Only the priest and altar servers say the mass. They have blurred the lines between the laity and the priest. The novus ordo "mass" will continue to evolve. VII was just the beginning. The novus ordo churches built after VII don't even resemble Catholic Churches. They are built around the belief of man being the focal point. One of the worst things is that the tabernacle is usually off to the side or nowhere to be found in most novus ordo churches. When they created the novus ordo mass, they had 6 protetestant ministers to help them at VII council. There are many striking similarities to what the protestants during the reformation did with the mass vs the novus ordo mass.
One thing I forgot to mention is that Paul VI changed the rites of ordination in 1968 so the priests and bishops ordained in this new rite are doubtfully valid. The sacrament of baptism also comes up because you have modernist heretics not correctly baptizing people. For a sacrament to be valid it must have the proper form, matter, and intention. If any of that is missing or faulty the sacrament is not valid. This is also the reason many novus ordo "masses" are very doubtful much less valid.
Here is an interesting article on the ordinations: https://novusordowatch.org/wp-content/uploads/purging-priesthood.pdf
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