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I was raised catholic, but had a crisis of faith as a teenager. I've since studied theology, and philosophy. It's my opinion that the teachings of the church are in accordance with morality, the political nature of the church however is contrary to morality.

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It's my opinion that the teachings of the church are in accordance with morality

Cool! I would say that is not an opinion, but a fact :)

political nature of the church

If I am understanding what you mean by "political nature", then yes, I do agree and find that to be an unfortunate situation (current pope included). This doesn't negate the teachings of the church, just condemns those within that are not following the correct path.

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The catholic church is one of the wealthiest institutions on earth, they own more property than any other institution, and they have their own country. The Vatican archives deliberately keeps knowledge and potentially wisdom from the world. That's in direct conflict with the teachings of christ.

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Morality ? You cannot in good conscience follow and agree with a book (written by man) that says slavery is ok and speak the word moral. Can't do it.

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Look, I'm not a Christian. I'm fully aware of the fact that all organized religion is a creation of man as a structure of control. Christianity is rebranded astro theology at it's core. Is it perfect? Not at all. It is a decent roadmap to attaining a grateful and humble existence. Not the best, not the worst. It's somewhere in the middle and that's exactly why it's so popular. Yeah, some of it is outdated. I don't think people should be property. You have to remember though, it's only in the last 200 years out of at least 12000 years of society that we realized that. You're looking for reasons to cancel an ideology, and it's like a "ha, checkmate christcuck!" Jokes on you though bud. Every ideology is flawed. You're free to take what's useful and leave the rest. If you refuse to look at christianity like it has something useful then you're leaving a lot on the table.

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Morality isn't controlled or compromised by time or that which speaks it. It just is. Christianity isn't an ideology, it's a mission statement based heavily on guilt and subjection through calls of jew "Abrahamic" morals. Same as islam.

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Yes. I got burned out by having the same argument with heretics and "Odinists" every other day on Voat, so am mostly lurking these days.

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Oh yes, I remember the Odin guys on Voat! They were always trying to say Christianity took away their heritage or some garbage like that. Kinda strange, but I always thought they were just trying to bash anything Christian and that is what they came up with.

I posted there one time about St. Boniface cutting down Thor's oak :)

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And they have priestesses. And they see no irony in the fact that the Jews have the same point of view on Christianity as they do.

I'd rather debate a Calvinist.

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I genuinely care about papists. I want them to fix themselves and stop following a heretical cult.

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I appreciate the honest reply (even if it is a little acidic).

In reply I would note that the bible specifically says the Mary is the Mother of God, and that faith without works is dead, so I would say that it is the Protestants that are the heretical ones for not following the bible.

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the bible specifically says the Mary is the Mother of God

Not in question. Neither is her humanness (she sinned) and the fact that she also had other children after Jesus (wasn’t a perpetual virgin). Because that’s in the Bible, too.

and that faith without works is dead

Aww, that’s cute. But then again, what does the Bible say?

“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.” ~ 1 Corinthians 1:18

“For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish.” ~ 2 Corinthians 2:15

“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” ~ Matthew 7:14

“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.” ~ Acts 8:36-38

Oh, that’s right; salvation is instantaneous.

so I would say that it is the Protestants

So that’s all else there is, huh?

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Aww, that’s cute. But then again, what does the Bible say

that is exactly what the bible says. James 2:26.

salvation is instantaneous

faith is a choice. I choose to believe, and I try to ACT accordingly. none of the four quotes you provided prove anything you are trying to say. actually, the fourth quote actually proves my point (faith and works). why, because not only did they profess their faith, they ACTED by getting out of the chariot and being baptised.

please try again.

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Catholicism is almost as infested with pedo bullshit as judaism.

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It's a good thing the priest at Parkland applied holy water to Kennedy's big toe.

This is a true story.

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Look up at the sky, breath in the ocean.

We're right here; nothing to fear, friend.

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But if I breathe in the ocean, I will drown!

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Catholicism is a jew construct.

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What's prompted you to care?

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Just curious, as I made several posts and was immediately hit with "whore of babylon" garbage and just wanted to know if there truly were any real Catholics here.

I'm sure there are a few, but probably not enough to outweigh the shills.