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I'm being sincere. I promise. How do you guys justify the following:

  • original sin and baptism of infants
  • transubstantiation
  • celibacy among clergy
  • saints (idol worship imo)
  • systemic/widespread issue of pedophilia among clergy
  • woke Pope

EDIT: Full transparency - I have refered to the catholic church as the church of the devil in other subs. Just my opinion.

I'm being sincere. I promise. How do you guys justify the following: - original sin and baptism of infants - transubstantiation - celibacy among clergy - saints (idol worship imo) - systemic/widespread issue of pedophilia among clergy - woke Pope EDIT: Full transparency - I have refered to the catholic church as the church of the devil in other subs. Just my opinion.

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Jesus wasn't baptized as an infant. And the bible never says Jesus was celibate. I personally think Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife. She was there for most of the major events in Christ's life. And she was the first person He chose to show himself to after he was resurrected. Some of the apostles were married as well. Why not Jesus?

And homosexual sex with underaged boys is still pedophilia bro.

EDIT: Also, celibacy is probably what's driving these priests to boink little kids. Christ never taught celibacy. None of the prophets did.

EDIT 2: "Jesus saith unto [Mary Magdalene], Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."

In various Greek translations, "touch me not" is "Do not cling to me any longer" or "Do not hold me." Think about it.

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Jesus, as were all jews, was circumcised as an infant.

"Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife" - the problem with believing in made up stuff is that by it's very nature, it is made up and fake.

It really seems like you are desperately looking for reasons not to believe, rather than being honest and looking for truth.

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I'm a believer man. I beleive in the godhead, baptism, the divinity of christ. And I try to follow christ's gospel. The catholic church just doesn't teach Christ's gospel. They teach some bastardized version of it.

And the mary magdalene thing is a fan theory, I grant you that, but the facts are that the bible never states that christ was celibate. So, you cant assume that he was. And he never taught celibacy.

And circumcision is not baptism man. I don't get you're argument there.

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So, most people's objections to infant baptism is that the child is too young to decide. Circumcision is an outward sign of the Abrahamic covenant, and defined someone as a Jew. My point is that since Jesus was circumcised as an infant, baptizing an infant cannot be wrong.

Jesus Christ was celibate as He was never married. The bible specifically states adultery (sex with a person that is not your spouse) is wrong. The bible specifically states fornication is wrong. There is no evidence in any legitimate historical text that shows Jesus was married, and my thoughts are that if he did get married, that most certainly would be listed in the bible.