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Stop buying the crap then. Buy old and used. This fucking shit has to stop. These cars cost a shit load because of massive markup and a shit load of "features" you never asked for. I am not going to go buy a new truck for $60-70k. It is NOT WORTH IT. Unless it makes you money somehow and you can write it off as a business expense. Even then.. FFS.

I drive something that's over 20 years old. I bought it in cash about a decade-ish ago.

It works, I don't need it to do anything else. I replaced the head unit to make it do some extra stuff but that probably cost about $250 since I did it myself. It doesn't track everywhere I go and upload it to some database. It doesn't need "software updates" to work properly. Etc...

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-25/surging-car-prices-push-buyers-to-take-out-longer-auto-loans

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>Shirria McCullough so loved her new, black Honda Pilot SUV that at first, she didn’t pay close attention to the loan terms. It was only after someone online pointed them out that the panic set in. McCullough, a licensed clinical social worker in North Carolina, has been trying to eliminate debt from her life while documenting the process on TikTok. After she posted about the $45,000 Pilot, bought in 2023, a viewer commented that they’d never heard of Honda Motor Co. offering loans lasting seven years. McCullough hadn’t realized the loan’s length. The thought of her and her husband paying interest for so much time — adding thousands of dollars to the overall cost — made her “feel sick to my stomach,” she said.

Stop buying the crap then. Buy old and used. This fucking shit has to stop. These cars cost a shit load because of massive markup and a shit load of "features" you never asked for. I am not going to go buy a new truck for $60-70k. It is NOT WORTH IT. Unless it makes you money somehow and you can write it off as a business expense. Even then.. FFS. **I drive something that's over 20 years old. I bought it in cash about a decade-ish ago.** It works, I don't need it to do anything else. I replaced the head unit to make it do some extra stuff but that probably cost about $250 since I did it myself. It doesn't track everywhere I go and upload it to some database. It doesn't need "software updates" to work properly. Etc... Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-25/surging-car-prices-push-buyers-to-take-out-longer-auto-loans From the post: >>Shirria McCullough so loved her new, black Honda Pilot SUV that at first, she didn’t pay close attention to the loan terms. It was only after someone online pointed them out that the panic set in. McCullough, a licensed clinical social worker in North Carolina, has been trying to eliminate debt from her life while documenting the process on TikTok. After she posted about the $45,000 Pilot, bought in 2023, a viewer commented that they’d never heard of Honda Motor Co. offering loans lasting seven years. McCullough hadn’t realized the loan’s length. The thought of her and her husband paying interest for so much time — adding thousands of dollars to the overall cost — made her “feel sick to my stomach,” she said.

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[–] • 3 pts

Stop buying the crap then. Buy old and used.

Did you forget that faggot obama did the (((clunkers for cash))) grift about 15 years ago? That (((scam))) removed a huge amount of older good vehicles from the market and destroyed them. The cars that on the used market now are mostly the crap that was made after that time and they are pieces of shit. Sure you can find older used cars from a better time, but how long will you still be able to get parts for them?

The whole thing was a (((grift))) designed to get you into surveillance cars and never ending car loan debt as you have to replace them every 5 or so years. A few can still have a chance at an older vehicle, but they are getting scarce now. We're stuck with the spy car crap and it will only get worse in the coming years. And with these prices and the (((air bag))) scam, the cost of owning a car is only going to go up. But you will own nothing and be happy, goyim.

[–] • 1 pt

Wasn't clunkers for cash long before him? I thought it was at least.

[–] • 2 pts

Wasn't clunkers for cash long before him? I thought it was at least.

Nope...

The program officially started on July 1, 2009, the processing of claims began July 24,[2] and the program ended on August 24, 2009, as the appropriated funds were exhausted, having scrapped 677,081 vehicles

[–] • 1 pt

Well fuck. That guy was a even bigger piece of shit than I thought then.

Thanks for the info. Ill go read up a bit more on it. I remember that they had commercials on tv/radio/everywhere for it too. I wonder how many millions of $$$ they spent on just advertising alone.

[–] • 2 pts

>$60-70k

Lol. I see that you have not looked at the price of a new truck in a few years. Try 90-100 for anything nice. All 3 of my trucks are over 20 years old.

[–] • 1 pt

Yeah, sounds about right. Fuck that bullshit. I am at the point I will import instead.

[–] • 1 pt

My problem was even the used/old cars were about the same damn price as a new car WTF bullshit

[–] • 1 pt

True, Though, I bought something that had well over 100k on it already but its reliable. I have already put another 150k on it and it runs like a top. If it ever fails I will buy something else of similar age. If I can't I will buy something used and gut all of the bullshit out of it.

[–] • 1 pt

You can blame cash for clunkers. There's about 40 years of cars that were willingly destroyed for a tax credit. It may have stimulated the auto sales short term but the long term we are living now is almost all used cars are either rental turn ins or cars from 2010 or later. The old stuff is gone.

[–] • 1 pt

I can afford this right now, and things will get better for my situation, which will make this more affordable,

That's the trap. You lie to yourself your financial situation will get better. No, actually it won't. It will erode over time. The system is designed that way. Inflation gets worse, your expenses get higher. Unless you change your income capacity higher, you won't be able to improve your situation.

I notice that people take loans out for things that have no long term residual value. What's the point of that? Borrowing money to take a vacation when the vacation only lasts 1 week but the payments go on for years?

I put off buying things I don't need and can't afford. I'd love to buy a $100K boat, but I don't have the money. I won't have the money and I don't need it. But apparently, that doesn't stop people from buying such things.

[–] • 1 pt

We never go on a trip/vacation unless we have saved all of the money for it ahead of time. Sometimes you go without to try to be responsible.