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So I had a decision to make on Sunday morning around 5AM. Dad was lethargic and barely communicating. Sadly, this isn’t abnormal but it was bad enough that I had to get him to the hospital. I’m not “young” but I’m big and strong. The first decision after knowing I had to bring him to the emergency room was do I call for an ambulance or try to carry him to the truck. My dad is up in age but a big man. Let’s estimate 6’2” and 210 lbs. I need to tear down his steps and build a ramp. He has steps going down from his front porch which are bad enough as a fall or trip hazard, but worse because he was too weak to be any help. I was too afraid of falling with him, so I called an ambulance.

What sucks about these decisions was me worrying about every decision I made and how much it would cost. I decided to call an ambulance. Two men, younger than me, had me lift him from the rolling chair I had him in then place him into their chair that had handles to carry him down the steps in. They asked me to help carry him down the steps. What the fuck? They might as well have been women.

Fast forward to the room in the emergency section then being admitted for the day then overnight on an upper floor. X-rays. Ct scans. Blood. Urine. All the tests. Nearly no answers.

My dad has these (weekly-ish) recurring episodes of having no energy or strength at all. I was praying I’d get some kind of solid answer. Nope. I was hoping after going over all his medicines with multiple nurses and doctors maybe if the tests didn’t tell anything, they’d catch issues with his meds.

What they found is while the X-rays didn’t show it, the ct scans told he’s had “walking pneumonia.” They ordered 2, 5-day antibiotics and kicked us loose. I made a list of questions for the doctors. My observations. My worries. Etc.

They basically just said he has an appointment with his GP in a week and to ask him.

I’m not saying all these people didn’t have good bedside manner. They did. I’m just frustrated with the general experience. How are they taking in all this money and it’s acceptable to have no answers. How can he be bullshitting with me at 10PM then can’t talk or walk at 5AM and all this money can’t buy an answer or a fucking hunch or something?

On the way out, a fucking nurse hands me a bag with a prescription inhaler and tells us when and how long to take it. I was ready to take that with us then head to the pharmacy to pick up the antibiotics. As we start heading to the elevators, another nurse stops us and asks the woman to check the name on that bag with the inhaler. It was for someone else. WHAT. THE. FUCK? They shrug it off like it’s just an oopsie.

My Dad is insured and stuff but some of this will still come out of pocket. I can’t justify it. I’m so pissed. We are where we were two days ago.

I’m just venting because Poal feels like home and I’m so tired but so anxious and can’t sleep.

Fuck.

So I had a decision to make on Sunday morning around 5AM. Dad was lethargic and barely communicating. Sadly, this isn’t abnormal but it was bad enough that I had to get him to the hospital. I’m not “young” but I’m big and strong. The first decision after knowing I had to bring him to the emergency room was do I call for an ambulance or try to carry him to the truck. My dad is up in age but a big man. Let’s estimate 6’2” and 210 lbs. I need to tear down his steps and build a ramp. He has steps going down from his front porch which are bad enough as a fall or trip hazard, but worse because he was too weak to be any help. I was too afraid of falling with him, so I called an ambulance. What sucks about these decisions was me worrying about every decision I made and how much it would cost. I decided to call an ambulance. Two men, younger than me, had me lift him from the rolling chair I had him in then place him into their chair that had handles to carry him down the steps in. They asked me to help carry him down the steps. What the fuck? They might as well have been women. Fast forward to the room in the emergency section then being admitted for the day then overnight on an upper floor. X-rays. Ct scans. Blood. Urine. All the tests. Nearly no answers. My dad has these (weekly-ish) recurring episodes of having no energy or strength at all. I was praying I’d get some kind of solid answer. Nope. I was hoping after going over all his medicines with multiple nurses and doctors maybe if the tests didn’t tell anything, they’d catch issues with his meds. What they found is while the X-rays didn’t show it, the ct scans told he’s had “walking pneumonia.” They ordered 2, 5-day antibiotics and kicked us loose. I made a list of questions for the doctors. My observations. My worries. Etc. They basically just said he has an appointment with his GP in a week and to ask him. I’m not saying all these people didn’t have good bedside manner. They did. I’m just frustrated with the general experience. How are they taking in all this money and it’s acceptable to have no answers. How can he be bullshitting with me at 10PM then can’t talk or walk at 5AM and all this money can’t buy an answer or a fucking hunch or something? On the way out, a fucking nurse hands me a bag with a prescription inhaler and tells us when and how long to take it. I was ready to take that with us then head to the pharmacy to pick up the antibiotics. As we start heading to the elevators, another nurse stops us and asks the woman to check the name on that bag with the inhaler. It was for someone else. WHAT. THE. FUCK? They shrug it off like it’s just an oopsie. My Dad is insured and stuff but some of this will still come out of pocket. I can’t justify it. I’m so pissed. We are where we were two days ago. I’m just venting because Poal feels like home and I’m so tired but so anxious and can’t sleep. Fuck.

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[–] 4 pts

I’m not saying all these people didn’t have good bedside manner. They did. I’m just frustrated with the general experience. How are they taking in all this money and it’s acceptable to have no answers.

Sadly, that's because jews own and run the very profitable health industry. TBH, your dad is better off at home than staying there where they will milk his insurance and your wallet before killing him.

[–] 1 pt

Yeah man I was putting my hope in being in some fairytale scenario where I landed in the least kiked hospital in the country or something.

[–] 4 pts

I think medicine knows less than they'd like to admit. They're understaffed, ehxausted, and weighed down by staffers who struggled to graduate highschool.

Best luck, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to start searching for your own answers.

[–] 1 pt

I paid attention to everything I could just looking for errors. I forgot to mention that they had a drip running through his arm with whatever they put in there and the nurse needed to change it and add some antibiotics. First, she needed to sit him up to listen to his breathing from behind.

I pulled him up and held him up while she did that. Then we laid him back down and......she left. The line with the new IV stuff was still just sitting there unhooked.

I waited for like 10 minutes thinking maybe she was coming back. At that point I summoned here and yep, she forgot to hook up his line. She didn’t apologize. She said thanks for reminding her.

Scary stuff.

[–] 1 pt

So sorry to hear that you can't trust the nursing staff.

It's a good thing you're there to advocate for your Dad!

[–] 3 pts

I've seen what you experienced with my own family. The system is corrupt, ineffective and frankly dangerous. It's expensive. Payment systems are designed to encourage theft by creating long detailed bills few look at. Insurance carriers remove scrutiny from the actual consumers. Affirmative action has infiltrated the industry, along with clinitions being incentivized to do expensive, meaningless and even dangerous procedures and drugs.

Extrapolate this experience to everyday events. This is the new normal. What you experienced is just a sampling of normal life. People cannot care anymore about people, everything is about profit at the expense of people. I find myself unwilling to go to any medical establishment. I get sick now and stay home and tough it out on my own. I may die early because I could get something real bad. However, I don't trust the medical system anymore. I figure, they'll kill me there. I'll take my chances without them.

[–] 1 pt

Same here but I don’t know how my actions or opinions will change as I get older. I’ve been very lucky to go years at a time for a long time without feeling bad.

[–] 1 pt

I am really sorry about your dad.

They are not trained to do anything that ever addresses actual health . They're only trained to prescribe to increase illness by bandaiding problems, keep you alive as long as possible, miserable as possible, so that they can drain your money and you cannot ever feel well enough to do anything different.

My suggestion to you is to read the copper revolution. I have had Lyme disease for years. Very ill. Never had help from doctors. This book has changed my life. Essentially, every thing around us is a chelator. It binds to our minerals and the minerals in our food, too. Both meat and fruits/veggies. It's why they say our soil is so depleted. Agent orange and glyphosate are both chelators, one stronger than the other. EDTA, a very common ingredient in our food, especially breads, is a chelator. Bromine replaced iodine in flour, it also has a type of chelating effect as it takes the place of important minerals in our bodies, like iodine and copper. I don't know if you're aware but minerals are the core of our bodies ability to do basic functions, like cellular ATP, the literal power of the cells of our bodies to do anything at all. This is likely why your dad was ok last night and not this morning.

We are all severely deprived of iodine and copper, many of potassium (you need 4700mg/day, very few can get this in their diets because our food simply doesn't contain the nutrients it used to), magnesium, selenium, sulfur, boron, silica, and a few other key minerals.

People think that if they eat a good diet they should be able to get it, but they don't. They are healthier than other people, but they are still at a net loss. Our bodies use these minerals to detox things as well. Like chlorine, fluoride, bromine, glyphosate (even new born babies are found with this in their blood now), chemtrail, aluminum, mercury, etc. We are constantly sucked dry of our minerals.

When I started taking copper and other minerals, it was like my mind came back on line. I think I read that copper deficiency creates a 10-15 point IQ reduction. Fluoride poisoning another 10. We are all being poisoned by fluoride unless we only drink well, reverse osmosis, or similar water and never drink or eat anything out side of the house or wild from nature. Chicken feed has 130ppm, which gets stored in the meat of the chicken. Our water supply has .7ppm. Black tea, wine, dried fruits, all have a ton of it. The answer is mitigating the poison with minerals. Our bodies are amazing creations that have the ability to detox the poisons incoming, but it must have the fuel (minerals) to do it.

The FB page is very helpful, online community. The author also has his own webpage called revealingfraud.com . It's definitely not an easy process, and it is not without detox effects. But, it will drastically improved the cell's energy stores immediately for your father. And if he's still doing well enough to communicate, you can possibly do a great deal with it. But I recommend reading everything thoroughly before giving it to him. There are important things to know like, when you start taking copper you must take zinc, vitamin c, and selenium. The c needs to be taken at least two hours away from the copper bc it will bind to the copper. The selenium is needed because as your body begins dumping the stores of fluoride, aluminum, bromine, mercury, cadmium, etc, it will bind to those things and help carry it out of your body. You must be pooping at least once a day, or the things you release from the stores in your body will recirculate and fuck you up. As I said, you need to understand what you're doing and I suggest to write everything down to remember everything as well as be able to see patterns.

Good luck. If you cannot help your dad, you can at least help yourself and then others who will listen. Most just want an easy pill to swallow to be fixed and will not do any of this. I've tried to help a lot of people. No one wants to even read much less do the work.

Cheers.

[–] 1 pt

Worth checking out. Thanks for all the info and the effort it took to share it. That’s kind of you.

[–] 0 pt

You're very welcome. I care a great deal about our kind. I try very hard to help others. It's disappointing to not be able to do more. The brainwashing is so severe.

That book, the first third is read for free on youtube. Look up Jason Hommel Copper Revolution. Go to his playlists.

[–] 1 pt

>My dad has these (weekly-ish) recurring episodes of having no energy or strength at all.

Does he have a reason to be fucking depressed? Like, idk, wife's dead for instance?

[–] 0 pt

Yes. And he is. And the doctors mentioned this mind and body thing. Very long story but his ex wife is in hospice. Cancer. She and he are still close and see each other. She’s been declining faster now. He’s told me he’s depressed. He’s seen his primary and mental health doctor about it. (another psych med for mood/anxiety).

It was recommended when we go to his next general doctor appointment to ask about getting that doctor to order him go to a new behavioral center at the hospital where he will be admitted for a couple days, they’ll look at all the medicines hes on, etc.

I do believe the mind and body are connected, but this is just strange that he has these episodes where he almost can’t move. He absolutely LIVES for working outside. He’s constantly working outside. Too much in my opinion but it’s fulfilling for him.

The doctor also mentioned a possibility is some of it maybe for attention. I don’t know how much lore attention I can give him. I uprooted my whole life to be here and I’m sacrificing my finances right now because things are so unpredictable. But this is the sacrifice i was willing to make. I hope this isn’t anything to do with wanting attention. I’m with him daily and every night for hours.

But yes, he’s depressed. Ex wife/friend is dying. Dog just had 12th birthday. It’s a lot.

[–] 0 pt (edited )

Well look no further, it's depression, depression's a bitch it really is a vastly underestimated condition, many aren't even aware that they have it

Nothing is important when you're depressed, you don't understand why you can't give a fuck about anything, it's horrible, and you spend your life floating in the nothing like that, it can last for decades like that

The worst part is when people around you keep telling you "you can do it, you just have to try, if you really want to succeed you will succeed, it's a matter of will etc..." that sort of motivational discourse... And of course you fail to motivate yourself precisely because you're depressed, and you see yourself as more of a loser than anybody else as a result, because you aren't even capable of just that... It's vicious cycle, everything is a mountain, even the most basic task, and you're tired to walk...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(mood)

Depression is a mental state of low mood and aversion to activity,[3] which affects more than 280 million people of all ages (about 3.5% of the global population).[4] Classified medically as a mental and behavioral disorder,[5] the experience of depression affects a person's thoughts, behavior, motivation, feelings, and sense of well-being.[6] The core symptom of depression is said to be anhedonia, which refers to loss of interest or a loss of feeling of pleasure in certain activities that usually bring joy to people.[7] Depressed mood is a symptom of some mood disorders such as major depressive disorder or dysthymia;[8] it is a normal temporary reaction to life events, such as the loss of a loved one; and it is also a symptom of some physical diseases and a side effect of some drugs and medical treatments. It may feature sadness, difficulty in thinking and concentration and a significant increase or decrease in appetite and time spent sleeping. People experiencing depression may have feelings of dejection, hopelessness and suicidal thoughts. It can either be short term or long term.

See? That's exactly that

And quite frankly, idk what to tell you, I hate the very concept of medication against depression, because well, you know psychiatrists and their pills today... Especially in the US...

But yeah technically, it's a chemical imbalance in your brain, depression is a chemically induced illusion if you will, you see life as absolute shit no matter how you look at it, it's a chemically induced "permanent" state of helplessness, that's depression, and it sucks like a billion dysons plus 1.

So ultimately yes "mood pills" work... And what happens when you stop or forget to take them? .... Yeah...

....

Alternative? https://youtu.be/rYuuhGzu1og?t=13 this can be one, being permanently surrounded by benevolent people, team work, doing stuffs with your hands together in a non piss contest way (it's important he's depressed...), yeah that is good. It can be a DIY club (manual work), a religious club even... The form may vary but the idea remains the same, behing constantly surrounded by good energy people and we do stuffs together

But even the inscription to the club is a mountain when you're depressed, even just getting out of the fucking bed... But once you're there, it's cool, you follow the general movement

Now another alternative is to have a good laugh with him on a daily basis

That helps, against depression

Believe me I know...

[–] 0 pt

Every hospital has a department set up where if you (say you) can't pay the bills they will knock a portion off using donated funds.

If you don't take advantage of it someone less deserving will.

[–] 1 pt

“ If you don't take advantage of it someone less deserving will.”

Guaranteed. Thanks!

How are they taking in all this money and it’s acceptable to have no answers.

Try spending 5 years with cancer trying to get it diagnosed and seeing doctors in three states and spending the last 3 years telling them it is cancer. These people get pretty pissy when you tell them that even if you are right. Then you tell doctors after that the story and they also get pissy. When you realize the many ways the medical industry can kill people you know that it is the number one real cause of death in the USA. These death jabs are taking it to the next level too.

[–] 0 pt

Doctor brought up covid vax after talking about flu shot. He didn’t push it. Only mentioned it. Dad hasn’t had the covid vax. I was worried they’d try to sneak that in some kind of way.

[–] 0 pt

How can he be bullshitting with me at 10PM then can’t talk or walk at 5AM

Because if he takes medication in the evening before bed, he might be on two different medications that are contraindicated and his GP and pharmacologist missed it....or your father could just be having a rare reaction to one medication. See what pills he is taking in the evening before bed (if any) and point out to his GP that he has these events a few hours after taking his medication(s). If he has these events at different times of the day it is really important for you to keep a diary of the times he has them and what he took medication-wise prior to the event.

You are going to have to be more proactive in his care because the medical community won't. What you described sound pharmacological, but I'm no expert. Get a notebook and start keeping track, also write down all his medications and when he takes them in that notebook. Then research his medications yourself. The best place for this is with a Physician's Desk Reference Book, which is what the medical community uses. They have a website https://www.pdr.net/ - you don't have to be a member. They provide a ton of info on each drug, but in that info you will find dosage info, adverse reactions, and contraindications. See if he is on the recommended dosage (sometimes drug dosages are higher than need be and can cause issues like your father experienced). This will help you a lot. I wish you good luck, sounds like you will be a good medical advocate. Also, if your father doesn't have a POA or medical directive, you need to download free copies from online, help him to fill them out, and take them to a notary for certification. Most states will accept notarized documents. Trust me, do this now or you may end up spending more money later on legal fees to get these filed when/if your father is ever incapacitated because you will likely have to hire an attorney at that point.

[–] 0 pt

Thanks a lot. I have that suspicion as well. A month ago I asked his GP about this. I also was much more vigilant making sure he’s eating enough and staying hydrated.

I have all his meds in one place. I distribute them. I make sure he’s taking them as best I can. And I’d say he’s only missed a dose or two in that month. I was so optimistic that being this strict would have helped but then more random episodes.

Then at the hospital I had all his meds woth me and my spreadsheet I keep for taking those meds. They mentioned he’s taking a lot of psych meds and seemed interested but then it just went back to telling me to talk to his GP.