Nationalism isn't a bad thing, but I don't think that is what we are seeing. It's more a Westernism, people of European descent are waking up. We don't want leaders leading us down the road of globalism and multiculturalism.

It's pretty amazing he can't see that populism and nationalism are the responses to cynicism to politicians. More nice mainstream figures will at least (condescendingly) admit nationalists and populists have a point.