Operation idea for those in Canada: Beat the Banks with Bottle Caps.

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Looking at it inspired me to think about the use of cola caps as currency in the fallout series, and made me wonder about it;s use as an alternative currency in an alternative economy.

the plan is simple: All you gotta do is go door to door in your neighborhoods around your areas (as in "areas that you select"), and ask the residents one simple question:

"If people were buying and selling goods and services to one another exclusively using these bottle caps as the only accepted medium of exchange, would you participate in such an economy?"

Tally up the "yes" and "no" and "did not respond" results as you do this. Show these results to the people you interview. When you get enough, come back here and compare your area's results with those collected by others.

Use these results as the basis for setting up this economy, create goods and services of your own, advertise them as widely as you can.

Buy up these sodas in order to collect their caps, then trade these caps for the goods and services you offer, and accept nothing else as payment, these sodas are $2.00 Canadian, so that is the value of each cap because it's what you need to buy into each one with, you must therefore round your prices to something cleanly divisible by $2.00 Canadian.

Of course, save up the caps you gain from this commerce, they are money after all, and trade these with more and more of the participants. The caps are bought with Canadian dollars, but get reused over and over as they circulate throughout this parallel economy, that money is gone from the Canadian government, and people are sustaining each other without using the official currency of the state.

"It's going to get shut down and people will get arrested" no shit sherlock, but that isn't the point here, these are the necessary sacrifices and causalities of the war we are waging.

Initially, we keep it down low, start up deepweb sites where people can offer legal goods and services, like food and other essentials, exclusively for these caps, make sure to police bad actors in this economy by allowing customer feedback, keeping records of the violators, and removing what looks to be them from using the service.

Over time, switch the "cap economy" up to the main internet, focus on the youth, as they are the best demographic for any sort of radical change to the prevailing culture, set up sites that boldly advertise legal goods and services in exchange for caps.

Make sure that before this gets shut down, that it gets big, and acquires a lot of media attention, this is the real goal of the operation, to open people's eyes to their degree of freedom within this society. To make people confused and to start up some strange memes across the internet. to shake things up in such a way as to make people feel things they just aren't feeling right now.

It's the feeling that creates revolutions, not anything else, when people feel unafraid, confident, and just don't give a shit about obeying the draconic aspirant totalitarians that rule over us right now. such an operation is good because it makes the banks afraid.

"the pop shoppe" caps are effective for this for the following reasons: they are essentially coins, distinct, limited, lightweight, with a known initial value, a balance between being scarce, but also widely available, and they belong to a smaller and more local business that very few know about already, this gives it more meme potential. Lastly, "the pop shoppe" is one of the few soda companies that actually makes a trade in glass bottles with caps on them.

I think it's going to be very funny when this becomes the next biggest meme in politics, caps into coins, initially valued at 2 canuck dollars (until it inevitably takes on a different valuation from being disconnected from the source).

No, it's not going to replace the national currency, it's going to be more of a currency that is localized to specific municipalities, but people will see that in these places, a handful of these caps can get you a loaf of bread and some beef stew, or a night at someone's home, or a new deck chair, or whatever.

So I just got an idea, I was in the store today and saw a bottle of "the pop shoppe" brand cream soda, this brand comes in glass bottles with distinctive aluminum bottle caps, it's a smaller brand that nonetheless has a significant enough presence in Canada for what I'm about to suggest. Looking at it inspired me to think about the use of cola caps as currency in the fallout series, and made me wonder about it;s use as an alternative currency in an alternative economy. the plan is simple: All you gotta do is go door to door in your neighborhoods around your areas (as in "areas that you select"), and ask the residents one simple question: "If people were buying and selling goods and services to one another exclusively using these bottle caps as the only accepted medium of exchange, would you participate in such an economy?" Tally up the "yes" and "no" and "did not respond" results as you do this. Show these results to the people you interview. When you get enough, come back here and compare your area's results with those collected by others. Use these results as the basis for setting up this economy, create goods and services of your own, advertise them as widely as you can. Buy up these sodas in order to collect their caps, then trade these caps for the goods and services you offer, and accept nothing else as payment, these sodas are $2.00 Canadian, so that is the value of each cap because it's what you need to buy into each one with, you must therefore round your prices to something cleanly divisible by $2.00 Canadian. Of course, save up the caps you gain from this commerce, they are money after all, and trade these with more and more of the participants. The caps are bought with Canadian dollars, but get reused over and over as they circulate throughout this parallel economy, that money is gone from the Canadian government, and people are sustaining each other without using the official currency of the state. "It's going to get shut down and people will get arrested" no shit sherlock, but that isn't the point here, these are the necessary sacrifices and causalities of the war we are waging. Initially, we keep it down low, start up deepweb sites where people can offer legal goods and services, like food and other essentials, exclusively for these caps, make sure to police bad actors in this economy by allowing customer feedback, keeping records of the violators, and removing what looks to be them from using the service. Over time, switch the "cap economy" up to the main internet, focus on the youth, as they are the best demographic for any sort of radical change to the prevailing culture, set up sites that boldly advertise legal goods and services in exchange for caps. Make sure that before this gets shut down, that it gets big, and acquires a lot of media attention, this is the real goal of the operation, to open people's eyes to their degree of freedom within this society. To make people confused and to start up some strange memes across the internet. to shake things up in such a way as to make people feel things they just aren't feeling right now. It's the feeling that creates revolutions, not anything else, when people feel unafraid, confident, and just don't give a shit about obeying the draconic aspirant totalitarians that rule over us right now. such an operation is good because it makes the banks afraid. "the pop shoppe" caps are effective for this for the following reasons: they are essentially coins, distinct, limited, lightweight, with a known initial value, a balance between being scarce, but also widely available, and they belong to a smaller and more local business that very few know about already, this gives it more meme potential. Lastly, "the pop shoppe" is one of the few soda companies that actually makes a trade in glass bottles with caps on them. I think it's going to be very funny when this becomes the next biggest meme in politics, caps into coins, initially valued at 2 canuck dollars (until it inevitably takes on a different valuation from being disconnected from the source). No, it's not going to replace the national currency, it's going to be more of a currency that is localized to specific municipalities, but people will see that in these places, a handful of these caps can get you a loaf of bread and some beef stew, or a night at someone's home, or a new deck chair, or whatever.

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How shall I acquire my food and water without paying for it?

I love I'm a city, I own no land, I can't just raise and grow my own food.

If you are referring to just leaving and going innawoods to live off the land as a lone man, I can tell you that 8ve certainly thought about it, but no social change can come from this, and I am likely to end up dead without other people to support me out there.

There is also the fact that the government will send people after those who do that, and I'd end up with less freedom than I have now.

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Why did you get into the situation where you need the government to authorize an imaginary unit of credit so that you can access your needs?

How shall I acquire my food and water without paying for it?

You know the answer if you simply think on it for more than a passing moment. Maybe the question to ask is why are you lazy & selfish; why do you sacrifice long-term freedoms & safety (from genocidal commies) in return for short-term comforts and an endless supply of those things the city offers ie- self-destructive wants: entertainment, fashion, cars, service, alcohol, coffee, chocolate, fast food, etc?

I can't just raise and grow my own food

Your city has no community garden spaces? You can't arrange a plot for yourself on someone's unused backyard in your city? You have no friends, no family with such land avail? You cannot grow herbs or mushrooms in your apartment?

If you are referring to just leaving and going innawoods to live off the land as a lone man, I can tell you that 8ve certainly thought about it, but no social change can come from this, and I am likely to end up dead without other people to support me out there.

Indeed, going alone into the woods is not necessarily the solution but you seem to quickly assume you'll end up dead and that nobody would be there to help support (each other - since expecting 'support' from someone is a commie attitude; what you need is a mutual interest in supporting each other to accommodate each other's needs)

the government will send people after those who do that

again assumption, not based in reality but only imagination - rooted in irrational fear; a recurring mental behavioral pattern you seem to fallback on a result of years of bompardment of propaganda from the very parasites who want you stuck in a hamster wheel in the (((city))).

It's important to come to grips with the reality that you're the problem. You're an enabler of the commie gulag by consent (driven by fear mostly it seems). And you, in aggregate with the billion other lemmings who go along with commie policy, is what empowers this beast system.

Look at the mask situation. There's no "government sending people after those who don't comply" so that isn't the problem. The problem is the masses of lemmings who go along with the fear propanda - and so the people police themselves; the businesses are the ones enforcing and thus perpetuating mask madness and the neverending pandemic whether they know it or not.

We are all in it together. And I am not trying to preach or proclaim the solution but I can relate to your situation as only having recently awakened to these underlying root problems. Another pfriend has been incredibly helpful to work through this with. It's nature man; blood is energy, energy is in motion : the parasite feeds on the host so long as the host provides; disavow from money, from the system, from fixed beliefs/assumptions/fears, and stop giving away your power by instead reserving, protecting, and embracing your individual authority which emmanates from within to starve them of what you give them today: your your consent. your potential, your energy,

Why did you get into the situation where you need the government to authorize an imaginary unit of credit so that you can access your needs? > How shall I acquire my food and water without paying for it? You know the answer if you simply think on it for more than a passing moment. Maybe the question to ask is why are you lazy & selfish; why do you sacrifice long-term freedoms & safety (from genocidal commies) in return for short-term comforts and an endless supply of those things the city offers ie- self-destructive wants: entertainment, fashion, cars, service, alcohol, coffee, chocolate, fast food, etc? > I can't just raise and grow my own food Your city has no community garden spaces? You can't arrange a plot for yourself on someone's unused backyard in your city? You have no friends, no family with such land avail? You cannot grow herbs or mushrooms in your apartment? > If you are referring to just leaving and going innawoods to live off the land as a lone man, I can tell you that 8ve certainly thought about it, but no social change can come from this, and I am likely to end up dead without other people to support me out there. Indeed, going alone into the woods is not necessarily the solution but you seem to quickly assume you'll end up dead and that nobody would be there to help support (each other - since expecting 'support' from someone is a commie attitude; what you need is a mutual interest in supporting each other to accommodate each other's needs) > the government will send people after those who do that again assumption, not based in reality but only imagination - rooted in irrational fear; a recurring mental behavioral pattern you seem to fallback on a result of years of bompardment of propaganda from the very parasites who want you stuck in a hamster wheel in the (((city))). It's important to come to grips with the reality that you're the problem. You're an enabler of the commie gulag by consent (driven by fear mostly it seems). And you, in aggregate with the billion other lemmings who go along with commie policy, is what empowers this beast system. Look at the mask situation. There's no "government sending people after those who don't comply" so that isn't the problem. The problem is the masses of lemmings who go along with the fear propanda - and so the people police themselves; the businesses are the ones enforcing and thus perpetuating mask madness and the neverending pandemic whether they know it or not. We are all in it together. And I am not trying to preach or proclaim the solution but I can relate to your situation as only having recently awakened to these underlying root problems. Another pfriend has been incredibly helpful to work through this with. It's nature man; blood is energy, energy is in motion : the parasite feeds on the host so long as the host provides; disavow from money, from the system, from fixed beliefs/assumptions/fears, and stop giving away your power by instead reserving, protecting, and embracing your individual authority which emmanates from within to starve them of what you give them today: your your consent. your potential, your energy,

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Here's a different question, how is one man doing as you say going to change anything politically?

Your answers have no teeth to them. My plan is to fuck the economy and piss off the bankers by building another one on top of it.

Your idea will do nothing like that. It's ineffective and I think that's an intentional aspect of your proposal.

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politically

any religion, political structure or [insert belief system here] is the problem; you are trying to be effective by directing your energy within these fictions. That's not effective, that's wasting your energy.

You are the only political system you need; that you need any outside system other than the one nature provides (which btw you are IN, thus you are IT ie- one within all, all is one) is indeed fantasy.

but I could be wrong, feel free to elaborate on how to 'change politics' so that it ... what... pisses of bankers as you suggest? Or to build another layer on top of what (((they)))) have built? Why is your goal in life to 'piss of bankers'; is there not better things we could be doing? Why are you directing energy at (((them))) would it not be more effective to focus that energy on bettering yourself? Did you ever wonder what it is they are creating the distractions for? The endless conflicts? The constant barrage of propaganda and fantasy? The entertainment industries and on and on? The toxic food and addicitve indulgements? Everything is directed at enabling your self-destruction; and you directing your energy at (((them))) is also doing exactly that and so you are falling for yet another trap. It's what they want. It's why they are setting up the next great race / class / nation / relgion / idol war.

And so what if your 'political solution' wins? Now you have (((political power))) over people? Is that what you want. And what gives you that power? The consent of others. So then we are right back at square one. People are consenting to (((politics))). Consenting to self destruction. Consenting to genocide of their own race. It is this consent which is the core of Talmudic black magic - they offer you all the ways to destroy yourself and you consent to it all. Their web of lies are successful because you chose to believe them. Whether you believed in 'truth' or the lie does not matter as both are irrelevant in reality - the real system - which is ever changing and never still; never fixed or motionless which is what defines true or false. You flailing at them is a waste of energy and you will drown as they merely swim with the current; the more you fight the tighter the web constricts around you...

I am not proposing anything, I'm trying to suggest a rejection of consent to loss of self authority - to instead reserve your power to be the best you can be from within and thus emmanate out and thus attract (as a tree does, growing strength via roots/branches outwards that then become an ecosystem to sustain so much more than itself). It seems you prefer solutions in the (((system))); stuck in the web just where the parasite wants you - instead of gracefully unravelling yourself to then step away from such that you can grow to reach your own potential - if anything that is what I am proposing: step out of the matrix they have created and back into the one we already are afforded as defined by the natural ecosystem for which we find ourselves.

> politically any religion, political structure or [insert belief system here] is the problem; you are trying to be effective by directing your energy within these fictions. That's not effective, that's wasting your energy. You are the only political system you need; that you need any outside system other than the one nature provides (which btw you are IN, thus you are IT ie- one within all, all is one) is indeed fantasy. but I could be wrong, feel free to elaborate on how to 'change politics' so that it ... what... pisses of bankers as you suggest? Or to build another layer on top of what (((they)))) have built? Why is your goal in life to 'piss of bankers'; is there not better things we could be doing? Why are you directing energy at (((them))) would it not be more effective to focus that energy on bettering yourself? Did you ever wonder what it is they are creating the distractions for? The endless conflicts? The constant barrage of propaganda and fantasy? The entertainment industries and on and on? The toxic food and addicitve indulgements? Everything is directed at enabling your self-destruction; and you directing your energy at (((them))) is also doing exactly that and so you are falling for yet another trap. It's what they want. It's why they are setting up the next great race / class / nation / relgion / idol war. And so what if your 'political solution' wins? Now you have (((political power))) over people? Is that what you want. And what gives you that power? The consent of others. So then we are right back at square one. People are consenting to (((politics))). Consenting to self destruction. Consenting to genocide of their own race. It is this consent which is the core of Talmudic black magic - they offer you all the ways to destroy yourself and you consent to it all. Their web of lies are successful because you chose to believe them. Whether you believed in 'truth' or the lie does not matter as both are irrelevant in reality - *the real system* - which is ever changing and never still; never fixed or motionless which is what defines true or false. You flailing at them is a waste of energy and you will drown as they merely swim with the current; the more you fight the tighter the web constricts around you... I am not proposing anything, I'm trying to suggest a rejection of consent to loss of self authority - to instead reserve your power to be the best you can be from within and thus emmanate out and thus attract (as a tree does, growing strength via roots/branches outwards that then become an ecosystem to sustain so much more than itself). It seems you prefer solutions in the (((system))); stuck in the web just where the parasite wants you - instead of gracefully unravelling yourself to then step away from such that you can grow to reach your own potential - if anything that is what I am proposing: step out of the matrix they have created and back into the one we already are afforded as defined by the natural ecosystem for which we find ourselves.

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