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I was looking to upgrade my 2080S and then give the 2080S to my son for Christmas.

Well forget that. There is nothing even close to reasonably priced. Hell even the 2080S which I think I paid like 700 something for is over 1000 dollars. I'm not going to pay 2000+ for a 3080. Insane.

I bet this is hurting other pc part manufacturers. If you can't get a graphics card then you likely might put off upgrading the rest of your pc.

Hopefully this gets fixed soon.

I was looking to upgrade my 2080S and then give the 2080S to my son for Christmas. Well forget that. There is nothing even close to reasonably priced. Hell even the 2080S which I think I paid like 700 something for is over 1000 dollars. I'm not going to pay 2000+ for a 3080. Insane. I bet this is hurting other pc part manufacturers. If you can't get a graphics card then you likely might put off upgrading the rest of your pc. Hopefully this gets fixed soon.

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Crypto fags.

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Think about it. You aren't breaking even if you buy a card for $1500 for a 3070 to mine crypto with. Not for 10+ years, and your card would go defunct and not get any hashes way before then.

Manufacturers and the media are just scapegoating crypto miners because it's convenient and most people don't know enough about it to understand how dumb it sounds that they're claiming that crypto miners are paying 3-4x over MSRP to mine with these cards.

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But the machines that mine crypto use same chips?

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Not usually, no. They usually use custom designed chips, either ASICs or FPGA chips, not GPUs. Depends on what cryptos are being mined and what hashing algorithm they use.

A lot of people who already have GPUs for games or work use them to mine with, but that's a lot different than the claim that mining outfits are buying them at 3-4x MSRP for mining.

To give an example, I have a 3090 (which I signed up and waited months for) and don't use it to mine with, because it would net me a whopping $200/mo if I ran it 24/7, which is not including the costs of cooling my room down and the extra electricity. So it would take about 2 years of constant mining to break even on a card I bought for it's regular retail price. If I had bought it for scalper prices of $4k, it would take double that.

That doesn't factor in difficulty changes though, which this year in the last 6 months have doubled, cutting the rate of return by 50%. So if that holds true, it would never break even even at retail price, much less scalper prices (since by the 6 mo mark from now, it'd then take 3.5 more years to hit break even, then in another 6 months it would take 7 more years and so on).

The fact of the matter is, GPUs are attractive for mining only to people who bought them for some other reason, and most won't ever break even on the cost of them. Which is fine if you'd have bought one anyway, but makes little sense if you are trying to run a mining farm.

Factor in other overhead costs and it quickly becomes a non-starter for anything more than a way to make a few extra bucks.