One thing that’s critical to understand is that perspective is key. Thoughts and actions are downstream from perspective - that is to say: a shitty perspective on life will produce shitty results. It’s a cliché to mention the power of positive thinking, or having a clear goal in mind, but that’s really a majority of what these fat fucks are missing: they don’t see a reason to respect themselves enough to take care of their bodies. Everyone is going to have a different reason for improving themselves, but my perspective changed for the better once I accepted God into my life. Maybe these guys need to find a priest.