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Your 16 year old son finds himself a "girlfriend", do you go out of your way to make sure that they're always supervised, never alone, etc. Or do you let it slip that you're going to be going on an overnight outing with his mother, and the house will be free for the night. He can have friends over as long as they're responsible and clean up after themselves.

On the one hand, sex is a very risky activity, and teenagers can be very untrustworthy, and frankly stupid. But if he gets the experience over with while still at school, it won't be such a big deal later, and the more sexual partners he has, the more comfortable he will be in his dating life later. He won't mary the first girl that lets him see her naked, and can think objectively about a partner, rather than just with his dick.

If he doesn't have that opportunity early, he may turn out to be an "incel", virgin, weird, etc. Socially inept or highly anxious around women... I think we all know what happens to young men that, despite trying never get laid.

On the other hand, knocking up a girl at 16 is pretty much life over, and no girl who can sneak out without their parents kicking up a huge stink is marriage material. I mean, I wouldn't let my daughter go spend a night at her boyfriend's place.

Also, if it gets too serious, it can interfere with his education. I've seen first hand how my school mate absolutely flunked his last year because he was spending too much time with (and worrying about) his girlfriend who dumped him soon after graduation. Got a job doing data entry, lives with a disabled single mother, they live on her welfare and child support payments, it's not pretty.

Your 16 year old son finds himself a "girlfriend", do you go out of your way to make sure that they're always supervised, never alone, etc. Or do you let it slip that you're going to be going on an overnight outing with his mother, and the house will be free for the night. He can have friends over as long as they're responsible and clean up after themselves. On the one hand, sex is a very risky activity, and teenagers can be very untrustworthy, and frankly stupid. But if he gets the experience over with while still at school, it won't be such a big deal later, and the more sexual partners he has, the more comfortable he will be in his dating life later. He won't mary the first girl that lets him see her naked, and can think objectively about a partner, rather than just with his dick. If he doesn't have that opportunity early, he may turn out to be an "incel", virgin, weird, etc. Socially inept or highly anxious around women... I think we all know what happens to young men that, despite trying never get laid. On the other hand, knocking up a girl at 16 is pretty much life over, and no girl who can sneak out without their parents kicking up a huge stink is marriage material. I mean, I wouldn't let my daughter go spend a night at her boyfriend's place. Also, if it gets too serious, it can interfere with his education. I've seen first hand how my school mate absolutely flunked his last year because he was spending too much time with (and worrying about) his girlfriend who dumped him soon after graduation. Got a job doing data entry, lives with a disabled single mother, they live on her welfare and child support payments, it's not pretty.

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Little bastard wants to be a man and fuck let him get a job and buy his own house to fuck in. I think it's disrespectful. Also not to sound like a bitch but teach him to respect women. That's someone's daughter. End goal isn't hot sex it's finding someone to raise your bad ass kids and to grow old with

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Respect women

Why?

I'm not saying that to be an edgelord mgtow. But is not respect earned rather than given/assumed?

Also, if the end goal is a stable marriage. Does it not make sense to trial a wide variety of women until you find one that not only fucks, but is loyal and has other traits that would be indicative of a good mother?

How can you tell what is and isn't a good car if you've never driven or bought a car before?

Also, how do you have the skills/experience to keep the dream woman around if you find her? My brother had a great first girlfriend, real marriage material. But because he was young, and inexperienced, as we all were at some point, it fell apart. He just didn't know how to handle women, how to ignore their bullshit, feed them enough drama to keep them from being bored and making their own, keep them guessing, keep them interested, be someone strong that she can rely on without being an "emotional tampon".

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Well if your test driving women those probably aren't the ones you're going to marry anyway.

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How would you know if they were marriage material if you didn't "test-drive" her first?

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>But is not respect earned rather than given/assumed?>>

See I disagree with this common saying. If it were really true no one would expect anyone. We should respect people or at least act respectable towards them unless they give us a good reason not to.

Your other arguments make sense on the surface but study's don't back this up. Women are effected more by having multiple partners before marridge but it does effect men negatively in marridge too. Also you would think things like living together before marridge would help a marridge be successful but studies have proven the opposite. The idea that test drives being helpful when it comes to marridge is simply not true.

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Study's .

I would very much appreciate if you could repay the same respect back towards me, that I have shown unto you, and provide a source or link to a study, paper, or even article, that asserts your claim. I assume you will have much less trouble in finding these studies than I.