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Your 16 year old son finds himself a "girlfriend", do you go out of your way to make sure that they're always supervised, never alone, etc. Or do you let it slip that you're going to be going on an overnight outing with his mother, and the house will be free for the night. He can have friends over as long as they're responsible and clean up after themselves.

On the one hand, sex is a very risky activity, and teenagers can be very untrustworthy, and frankly stupid. But if he gets the experience over with while still at school, it won't be such a big deal later, and the more sexual partners he has, the more comfortable he will be in his dating life later. He won't mary the first girl that lets him see her naked, and can think objectively about a partner, rather than just with his dick.

If he doesn't have that opportunity early, he may turn out to be an "incel", virgin, weird, etc. Socially inept or highly anxious around women... I think we all know what happens to young men that, despite trying never get laid.

On the other hand, knocking up a girl at 16 is pretty much life over, and no girl who can sneak out without their parents kicking up a huge stink is marriage material. I mean, I wouldn't let my daughter go spend a night at her boyfriend's place.

Also, if it gets too serious, it can interfere with his education. I've seen first hand how my school mate absolutely flunked his last year because he was spending too much time with (and worrying about) his girlfriend who dumped him soon after graduation. Got a job doing data entry, lives with a disabled single mother, they live on her welfare and child support payments, it's not pretty.

Your 16 year old son finds himself a "girlfriend", do you go out of your way to make sure that they're always supervised, never alone, etc. Or do you let it slip that you're going to be going on an overnight outing with his mother, and the house will be free for the night. He can have friends over as long as they're responsible and clean up after themselves. On the one hand, sex is a very risky activity, and teenagers can be very untrustworthy, and frankly stupid. But if he gets the experience over with while still at school, it won't be such a big deal later, and the more sexual partners he has, the more comfortable he will be in his dating life later. He won't mary the first girl that lets him see her naked, and can think objectively about a partner, rather than just with his dick. If he doesn't have that opportunity early, he may turn out to be an "incel", virgin, weird, etc. Socially inept or highly anxious around women... I think we all know what happens to young men that, despite trying never get laid. On the other hand, knocking up a girl at 16 is pretty much life over, and no girl who can sneak out without their parents kicking up a huge stink is marriage material. I mean, I wouldn't let my daughter go spend a night at her boyfriend's place. Also, if it gets too serious, it can interfere with his education. I've seen first hand how my school mate absolutely flunked his last year because he was spending too much time with (and worrying about) his girlfriend who dumped him soon after graduation. Got a job doing data entry, lives with a disabled single mother, they live on her welfare and child support payments, it's not pretty.

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[–] • 3 pts

supervise those kids.

[–] • 1 pt

You don't want your son to not be able to have sex with women. He needs to be granted opportunity even if it's detrimental to him currently.

He needs to understand there are consequences to impregnating a young girl. There are parents on her side too.

Men should wait until they're mature enough to father a child mentally. Thirty is too old to begin, but young men are imbeciles essentially until their thirties. There's a weird tradeoff here, then.

Younger is better always, though.

Most importantly, young people must understand that the more sexual partners one has, the shorter their marriage is likely to be. Marriage is the ultimate goal. Having kids isn't. You can always have kids as a man. Women only have so long, though so don't wait too long and try your hardest not to settle.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

What's the point of having a son?

Do you not want to pass on your genetic lineage?

If my son is banging girls in high school, I will have a talk with him, about condoms, and how they are pointless, and make sex feel worse, and how most STDs are treatable nowadays.

Also, you don't have to father a child. You could always leave the country and impregnate more women elsewhere.

Just depends on how you feel about your own genetic strategy.

You want the niggers to win? Or do you want to out-nigger them by out breeding them?

[–] • 1 pt

An interesting response. At the surface level, it appears straightforward, but this gives it away: "or do you want to out-nigger them".

My feeling is that you think this is a stupid question, and that the answer is, obviously, hell no. It's hard to decipher intent and sarcasm on the internet but what I got from this is:

*Condoms are extremely important *STDs are a very real danger *Real men look after and raise their kids

I agree 100%.

Either way, the responses on this thread have lead me to a more fundamental question between traditional, monogamous conservatism, and modern TRP/pickup culture.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that a lot of sexual and relationship experience for men is a prerequisite to a successful marriage. Not only does it help you determine a good wife, by looking past just the sex. But it shifts the balance of power in the relationship away from the women who, IMO, have too much of it in this day and age, what with the courts, alimony, child support, etc.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

O>>But if he gets the experience over with while still at school, it won't be such a big deal later, and the more sexual partners he has, the more comfortable he will be in his dating life later.>>

This is a possible outcome but it's also possible he will become one of those guys who will sleep with anyone and everyone and make a game out of it.

Edit to add that while it seems to be more ok for men to have more partners before marridge it has been proven to be very problematic for women so as a socity should we not being tryimg to protect women's in this way so they can have sting marridges for the betterment of socity??

[–] • 1 pt

Your comment raises a larger issue between monogamous, traditional, conservative values, and pickup culture etc. Obviously, the two are incompatible.

My retort is that, while upbringing and a good education with good morals is extremely important, the bigger factor is welfare and consequences for actions.

You can't go against nature, and when resources are extremely abundant (welfare) it makes sense to go for an r-selected strategy.

In this case, it's a matter of being sexually experienced (one of the guys that makes a game out of sleeping with women) as a reaction to the environment, rather than the cause.

[–] • 2 pts

If he doesn't have that opportunity early, he may turn out to be an "incel", virgin, weird, etc. Socially inept or highly anxious around women... I think we all know what happens to young men that, despite trying never get laid.

I think you have it backwards. People who lack social skills tend to stay virgins rather than virgins becoming weirdos. If your son gets weird about women you have to have a talk with him about what's going on with his perception.

I also don't think it's sensible to give men a pass for sleeping around, but make sure women are chaste. You can't really have both and monogamy works better than promiscuity.

[–] • 0 pt

I'm not so sure. Even if he has good social skills, if the logistics can't work out, it's not going to happen.

Some of the most famous pick-up artists in the world struggled with women their entire lives, and it ended up consuming them to the point that they ended up dedicating their lives to it.

It's not an uncommon theme just limited to women though. If you've wanted something your entire life, and never gotten it, you can go to the ends of the earth to get it. And when you do, you tend to take it to excess.

Would you agree or disagree that social skills are exclusive from sex? IE, if a man can talk and be jovial with other men, and non-attractive women, that he social skills are not the problem?

[–] • 0 pt

I suppose you are right that he could get obsessive, though I don't think that could ultimately be blamed on the lack of sex. If that was the case, an orgasm from masturbating could do just the same.

[–] • 1 pt

I disagree.

In this case, sex is less about the pleasure or orgasm, and more about the confidence, satisfaction, etc. The state of mind where you know that you could do it any time you wanted.

It's like playing a video game (back in the day, before online games were a thing), and getting very, very good to the point that you beat your mates without trying. You don't have to join in and play every time they do, and you don't have to win every time. Infact, it should get boring, and you'll turn your attention to other, more important things.

Same for boys/men and relationships. Once you get to the point where you're so confident in yourself that you don't need to chase pussy (it comes to you), you can turn your attention and efforts to other, more important things, such as growing your business, career, or caring for your family.

[–] • 1 pt

Dunno, hopefully cross that bridge if I get to it. I'm childless and no expert. I'd think it depended on the personality. Personally at that age I'd just rebel twice as hard. I came from a somewhat abusive family. Getting popped over spilt milk means you don't fear any reprisal at a certain age.

[–] • 1 pt

Sorry to hear that, man. No kid should have to go through that.

[–] • 1 pt

Little bastard wants to be a man and fuck let him get a job and buy his own house to fuck in. I think it's disrespectful. Also not to sound like a bitch but teach him to respect women. That's someone's daughter. End goal isn't hot sex it's finding someone to raise your bad ass kids and to grow old with

[–] • 0 pt

Respect women

Why?

I'm not saying that to be an edgelord mgtow. But is not respect earned rather than given/assumed?

Also, if the end goal is a stable marriage. Does it not make sense to trial a wide variety of women until you find one that not only fucks, but is loyal and has other traits that would be indicative of a good mother?

How can you tell what is and isn't a good car if you've never driven or bought a car before?

Also, how do you have the skills/experience to keep the dream woman around if you find her? My brother had a great first girlfriend, real marriage material. But because he was young, and inexperienced, as we all were at some point, it fell apart. He just didn't know how to handle women, how to ignore their bullshit, feed them enough drama to keep them from being bored and making their own, keep them guessing, keep them interested, be someone strong that she can rely on without being an "emotional tampon".

[–] • 1 pt

Well if your test driving women those probably aren't the ones you're going to marry anyway.

[–] • 0 pt

How would you know if they were marriage material if you didn't "test-drive" her first?

[–] • 0 pt

>But is not respect earned rather than given/assumed?>>

See I disagree with this common saying. If it were really true no one would expect anyone. We should respect people or at least act respectable towards them unless they give us a good reason not to.

Your other arguments make sense on the surface but study's don't back this up. Women are effected more by having multiple partners before marridge but it does effect men negatively in marridge too. Also you would think things like living together before marridge would help a marridge be successful but studies have proven the opposite. The idea that test drives being helpful when it comes to marridge is simply not true.

[–] • 0 pt

Study's .

I would very much appreciate if you could repay the same respect back towards me, that I have shown unto you, and provide a source or link to a study, paper, or even article, that asserts your claim. I assume you will have much less trouble in finding these studies than I.

[–] • 0 pt

I’ll pay it lip service and tell him not in my house or under my roof, that’s for marriage .besides sneaking around and finding a place to do it was half the fun.

[–] • 0 pt

sneaking around and finding a place to do it was half the fun

I don't think anyone can deny that.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Have a big talk about contraception and consequences for sexual actions

Hardcore education with love helps

But not the only thing you should do. Im not gonna pretend to be an expert

[–] • 2 pts

Not going to pretend to be an expert

Why not? It's fun.

It's not going to have any consequences anyway, me son's only 4, so I've got plenty of time before I have to worry.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Oh damn I think you had a lot of us thinking he was romeoing it up

[–] • 0 pt

Haha, nah.

My bad though, should have specified that in the OP.

[–] • 0 pt

Depends on the age of consent in the state and the age of the girl. If they are both above the age, I wouldn't really care. Better at a home than a car in the middle of nowhere. My son is getting vasclips/vasogel when he is 13 so I won't have to worry about babies.

[–] • 0 pt

Aren't you worried that the vasclips would leave him permanently sterile?

[–] • 0 pt

Definitely a concern. Vasogel would be my preference. But hopefully vasclips become safer over time, and the removal process becomes more successful. Fortunately I can afford the surgery to repair any damage, but that's a terrible way to look at things, and unfair to out that burden on a kid.