A more privatized variety of industry versus sliding down the slope to the "people's toilet paper". The welfare system is bloated and broken. When they actually "seize the means of production" the govt. ultimately fails b/c competition finds ways to do things cheaper. It also leads to over dependence on individual resources.
I thought communism was seizing the means of production.
Venezuela, oil, all just a matter of degrees.
Ok, I've learned under both socialism and communism the government owns the means of production. As far as I have read, the difference between them apparently is that under communism the government also controls the planning and distribution of resources.
I see it as a series of increments. Bloated welfare system, uncontrolled immigration, attracts people likely to be socialists, when system fails, new population votes for more and more govt control. Interestingly socialism is reversible as it starts to fail provided the mass immigration isn't there. Most the "nordic countries" politicians love to call "socialist" or "democratic socialist" reversed many of those policies 2 decades ago. It's why Denmark will be alright for the foreseeable future but Sweden is just fucked and destined to implode.
I wonder if anyone has studied the relationship between the expansion of mass immigration policies and the expansion of welfare policies. My guess would be they grow together and feed each other.
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