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TL;DR: What do you call someone who puts too much faith in science? How do you talk someone out if this

Is there a label for people who are like "The science says..." and "this study proves (rather than supports) x." This is , right? Do we call them "scientismists"? I know "fanatic" exists, but this needs something more.

Also, how do you politely argue with these people? For context I have an older brother ( a stepbrother technically, but he has been in my life ever since I can remember) who considers himself centrist and non-ideological because he pays attention to science and "the latest studies." I remember when this man thought dogs and cats could breed and when he literally thought one gene separated humanity from chimps ( because of our genomes having 99% similarity).

I'm not trying to say he's irredeemable for those bad ideas. I'm just saying that someone who has to have it explained to them why you never see catdogs outside of Nickelodeon and that humans have more than one hundred genes (I had to explain to him that he was implying this) maybe shouldn't act like the Lord of Science. Should I start with the basics, like defining science and how it works?

TL;DR: What do you call someone who puts too much faith in science? How do you talk someone out if this Is there a label for people who are like "The science says..." and "this study proves (rather than supports) x." This is [scientism](https://infogalactic.com/info/Scientism), right? Do we call them "scientismists"? I know "fanatic" exists, but this needs something more. Also, how do you politely argue with these people? For context I have an older brother ( a stepbrother technically, but he has been in my life ever since I can remember) who considers himself centrist and non-ideological because he pays attention to science and "the latest studies." I remember when this man thought dogs and cats could breed and when he literally thought one gene separated humanity from chimps ( because of our genomes having 99% similarity). I'm not trying to say he's irredeemable for those bad ideas. I'm just saying that someone who has to have it explained to them why you never see catdogs outside of Nickelodeon and that humans have more than one hundred genes (I had to explain to him that he was implying this) maybe shouldn't act like the Lord of Science. Should I start with the basics, like defining science and how it works?

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every bit as stupid as the religious people he ridicules.

He actually isn't an atheist. He only got this way after becoming vegan and moving further left politically.

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Proper atheists are the worst, but if he's a vegan and moving left, he's brainwashed, so maybe you can work off of that. People in general need more self awareness to grow.

Or maybe you could attack from a totally different angle - feed him redpills that seem totally unrelated/nonconflicting to his faith in "science" (political, cultural stuff?) so that he won't be able to use science to block them, then once you've got him digesting the core redpill of 'everything you know is a lie', he will begin to question his precious science without you having to say anything about it.

Also consider finding the right data (bellcurves, etc.) to use science to your advantage.

And if you're trying to redpill him, be encouraging rather than belittling like I suggested before. Belittling is more for hopeless NPC's - if you can't convert them you can at least subdue them under your terrifying power level.

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Also consider finding the right data (bellcurves, etc.) to use science to your advantage.

I actually have The Bell Curve by Murray and Herrnstein. I suppose I'll have to stop procrastinating about reading it.

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Another thing. If he's left leaning, try brainstorming the things that the left and right can find common ground on, like for example Israel's treatment of Palestinians, then go from there. Does he hate the big bad Corporations? Link (((the Corporations))) to Israel, then the government, banks, media, then everything else. Just do it gently - ask the right questions then let him figure out the answers for himself.

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at least subdue them under your terrifying power level.

guys like you are my favorite ones to do this to. so keen and arrogant. so satisfying to topple.