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Me: divorced forty something practicing Orthofox earning good money in a bullshit field

Her: divorced late thirties practicing catholic but okay with Orthodoxy. Earning good money in legit field.

Together for four years. We have talked marriage but both "slow movers" cause of poor marriage choices in our youths.

All good until recently. She has never been very political and of the view of "is all bs." Recently she has become very anti ICE.

Her: "These are people just trying to make better lives."

Me: "I don't give a fuck. I have to pay for private school for my son because public sucks thanks to watering down for immigrants, look at the DHS 'worst of worst list..." (etc and so forth and obbious reasons)

We argue over that a lot. I'm tired of the argument.

We are great other than that.

She recognizes other races and "cultures" are less than whites, but seems to be bleeding heart on this hill that we need to be kind to "immigrsnts looking for better" and accommodate.

She's missing the fucking point.

She's great other than that... but am I beating my head against a wall?

Me: divorced forty something practicing Orthofox earning good money in a bullshit field Her: divorced late thirties practicing catholic but okay with Orthodoxy. Earning good money in legit field. Together for four years. We have talked marriage but both "slow movers" cause of poor marriage choices in our youths. All good until recently. She has never been very political and of the view of "is all bs." Recently she has become very anti ICE. Her: "These are people just trying to make better lives." Me: "I don't give a fuck. I have to pay for private school for my son because public sucks thanks to watering down for immigrants, look at the DHS 'worst of worst list..." (etc and so forth and obbious reasons) We argue over that a lot. I'm tired of the argument. We are great other than that. She recognizes other races and "cultures" are less than whites, but seems to be bleeding heart on this hill that we need to be kind to "immigrsnts looking for better" and accommodate. She's missing the fucking point. She's great other than that... but am I beating my head against a wall?
[–] [Sticky] • 10 pts

This is complicated but we are not Reddit. They would be demanding to speak to your GF so they can tell her to leave you ASAP and how best to fuck you over in the process.

If this is how she is acting now, at this age. There is probably not a huge amount of room for her to consider those ideas and change over time. I would not accept someone that acts like that.

However, talking is important. The bleeding heart is probably mostly from the media she is using and from the people she is around. She probably has friends, family or some stupid social media group/websites pushing this on her 24/7 (or all of those). Women make decisions so they are accepted (it makes them feel good), not because they are good decisions (for the most part).

I don't know what to suggest but I would simply default to logic (which she may ignore, as you have suggested). Illegals hate us and want us dead. They want to take everything from us and replace us while turning our country into the shithole they came from.

You can have compassion and empathy but talking like "trying to make better lives" is suicidal. They don't want better lives. They want to kill you and take over the life you have. They don't think the way you do, they don't believe the things you do. You are NOT the same and you need to learn that.

If she can't get that through her head she is probably a lost cause that will eventually turn into a blue haired freak and attack you in your sleep with a chefs knife because you offended "her people" somehow.

My wife is not originally from the USA and we have been together for a long time. She became a citizen before we married (we were together at that time). She loves this country and hates these people that are trying to kill it. This is our country. Not just my country. OUR country.

She would probably have far more harsh words for you than what I wrote though. You will have to decide if this is something that you can work out or if it's just not worth it and move on.

Sometimes reason can win but you have to look for the cause for why she is thinking this way and try to understand it to see why it has such a influence. If it has too strong of a hold you will never be able to bring her back to reason.

I wish you the best of luck and I hope this helps.

[–] • 5 pts

Ideology is a major grounds for breakup, in my opinion. You can't coexist with someone who would kill you for your views.

[–] • 1 pt

It doesn't sound like it's come to that. She probably has "co workers" who discuss this bullshit at work instead of doing their jobs. Stupid ideas come out of the sewing circles all the time.

[–] • 0 pt

No, but if she already has ideas like that cooking in her head, it's not a stretch to think they could be evolved or twisted into something worse. I've seen it more times than I care to remember.

[–] • 1 pt

Same here. I have seen "level headed women" go sideways when something triggers a liberal seizure.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

Jesus submits to the Father, even when it's hard and confusing. I submit to Jesus, even when it's hard and confusing. A wife is to submit to her husband, even when it's hard and confusing, and so on.

I've seen recently, a study done on the neurological responses to people being administered electrical shocks for either playing a game fairly, or for cheating. Both women and men's brains' empathy centers light up when the fair player gets shocked, but when the cheater gets shocked, the woman's empathy centers light up and the men's do not. In fact, the men's pleasure centers that light up when this perceived "justice" is done.

Women are the helper, and so they don't like "Bad thing" happening to anyone, even if it's justified. This is one of the reasons why I believe Men are to be the head of the household. It's in her nature to feel bad for them, but she's gotta trust you on the justice of the matter or she's not submitting in a biblical context. If she can't/won't, then she's not really fit to be a wife.

Take with a grain of salt - I'm perpetually single.

Edit: Technically I think I committed a heresy there - Jesus wasn't ever "confused."

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

I actually don't know what you should do.

Women as a group are just bad at this sort of thing. Their great strength in one arena makes them hopelessly incompetent in others.

I lean towards: keep her and keep your opinions.

Just do not cuck out, be nice but don't break frame, not for an instance. If she leaves it's all on her. Work out and continue building a nice life so you can replace her if she bails on you.

The thing is, women are suffering from a sensory illusion. Like if you slept on your arm and you woke up feeling pins and needles because the circulation was cut off. That feeling is false information. There are no pins poking you. Your arm just feels that way. You can find optical illusions online that will trick your eyes into giving false or misleading data.

Emotions are also a sense.

They feed information to us just like our skin, eyes and nose do. Just as those senses can sometimes feed us illusions so do our emotions. Feeling something can point to the truth or not. You have to reflect on it.

Women feel deep down in their core with extreme conviction that is hard wired into their soul that if you give compassion and help to something weak and beset by trouble that it will change into something else. Something that's good and fundamentally different than it was before. Something that will ultimately love you back and care for you once the metamorphosis is seen to the end with enough caring and compassion.

Women are actually correct about this. It's completely true.

As long as you're talking about a human baby.

Completely and totally wrong in just about every other case, but with infants and toddlers, yes it's correct. They will grow up to be an adult far more capable, intelligent, and strong than the infant they were and will care for you in your old age.

We should be glad women feel this way. It was written into them by cosmic forces older and wiser than any of us so they could be good mothers. If the evolutionists are correct it was natural selection acting across millions of years because women without that feeling and conviction were not good mothers and their children didn't make it. If humans did not evolve but were designed then it was our creator, God in Heaven, who wrote that belief into women's hearts.

The problem is they feel that way in all sorts of inappropriate situations and can't tell their perception of reality is completely incorrect.

Pitbulls, when fully developed, have a temperament that can become suddenly violent without warning. They will not develop out of it. It is innate, present when mature, and can't be altered with compassionate nurturing. It could only be changed with modern genetic engineering or selective breeding.

A cactus, when fully developed, is covered with sharp needles. They will not develop out of it. It is innate, present when mature, and can't be altered with compassionate nurturing. It could only be changed with modern genetic engineering or selective breeding.

The average Somalian, when fully developed, has a more violent nature on account of the MAOA gene. They have a lower IQ and higher time preference. They will not develop out of it. It is innate, present when mature, and can't be altered with compassionate nurturing. It could only be changed with modern genetic engineering or selective breeding.

Accepting them and all other non whites as community members puts everyone else at risk from their violent and antisocial behaviors which are inborn and can't be nurtured away. It also creates permanent costs because they need to be propped up since they can never match white achievement on account of their low IQ and high time preference. I speak of averages of course. We all know about bell curves and outliers.

I think our task, which may not even be possible, is to guide white women away from the situations they can not perceive correctly. Like herding a blind man from the edge of cliff. Or telling a color blind man not to touch the blue ring octopus. Or alerting a deaf man of an oncoming train.

You can try to tell her her feelings are misleading her. Getting her pregnant or gifting her a golden retriever puppy so she has a baby or a pet to mother instead of retarded migrants might be more effective than talk though.

Good luck.

[–] • 2 pts

These are all true. The golden retriever idea might low key be brilliant.

[–] • 1 pt

Logic doesn't work with women. Feel > real with them. You have to appeal to emotion.

Her: "[illegal aliens] just want better lives" You: "[Single mother you know] just wants a better life, but she couldn't get daycare assistance because the Somali scammers took all the funding. Are you saying she doesn't deserve a good life?"

Irrelevant that the real problem is [single mother] couldn't keep a man. Whatever her point is, appeal to the same emotional argument but on 'your' side.

Unfortunately you're just going to have to get good at this mental tomfoolery until it's second nature.

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Read the orthodox marriage service for a second marriage. If you cannot pray those prayers genuinely then you should break up. If you can, then you should be seeking marriage.

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If women didn't have vaginas you'd throw rocks at them.

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Does she own property, or does she rent? Does she understand that taxes including property tax are forced from y'all to feed and house and school the invaders? Also, from what I've seen, the illegals just use school as free daycare and they don't give a crap about education. In Texas, they have their kids miss school on a Thursday, Friday, and Monday REGULARLY to drive back to mexico because it's always someone's birthday or wedding or funeral. Oh, and back home anywhere in latin America, they have to pay for school or the kid doesn't get the credits or their report card. "Better life" = scamming gibs from the US taxpayer.

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She "owns" a nice condo that is nice but has little understanding that she doesn't actually own anything cause if she stops paying the condo fees they take it from her.

[–] • 1 pt

She does "own" it outright as in that she has no mortgage. But still has monthly (((confo fees))) and (((tax)))

I "own" my house in that I have no mortgage, but of course pay (((property taxes)))

[–] • 0 pt

Nothing wrong with association fees like that. These fees fund the capital reserve and operational budget. One for repairs to the building and grounds. The other for things like lawncare, trash removal, and in some cases the water bill. You'd pay all this as a homeowner as well. In a condo you're just paying into the association to take care of it instead of each bill yourself.

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If you want to keep her, stop discussing politics with her. Otherwise, look for a girl in her 20s to fuck around with.

[–] • 0 pt

Earning good money in legit field.

Women belong in the kitchen, case closed.

[–] • 0 pt

She has a fundamental mis understanding of the Constitution, Law, and Nation. The US cannot save everyone, and it is not wrong to be Nationalistic.

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