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We found a nice non-HE replacement in the black friday deals. It has a cycle which is CLAIMS can clean just as well as a warm water cycle using only cold water. I'm skeptical, but was curious if anyone has any experience with it?

We found a nice non-HE replacement in the black friday deals. It has a cycle which is CLAIMS can clean just as well as a warm water cycle using only cold water. I'm skeptical, but was curious if anyone has any experience with it?
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Depends on th dirt. Some dirt comes out in cold. Other stains don’t.

But why do you care? Who washes in cold Water???

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because if the Cold Plus cycle works as they claim, it would cost less in terms of gas usage on the water heater

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You should remember a couple of things about that.

First, warm/hot water is better for some cleaning because the hot water can also provide a disinfecting action, and as stated above, some dirt releases better in warmer temperatures.

Second, HE detergent is still full of fillers because pure detergents can be highly corrosive. Those fillers can build up on the drum and other surfaces of your machine, reducing efficiency. A good, hot wash helps dissolve that crud.

But a general rule is always wash in the warmest water your fabrics allow. Cleaning cycles are generally bullshit, it depends primarily on how long it's being agitated in the water, how good your detergent works in said water, and how well the dirt is released in that combination of water and detergent.

That being said, how much change can you do to a rotating drum? I would bet that "plus" just means it's in the water bath longer or it tries to agitate it more.

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I would bet that "plus" just means it's in the water bath longer or it tries to agitate it more.

That's what the description sounds like. Wasn't sure how it worked in practice for anyone who owned one. Either way: this washer will work better than the High Eff. piece of shit we have now

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If you buy the HE one I’d think it takes less water.

Poop people problems. I’ve now got to call you a nigger. Sorry. Its policy.

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It's not HE. We have an HE now. It's shit and doesn't clean. Old school on the new one with a drum that can fill completely