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What are your thoughts?

I have some problems with this for my own reasons. Ill start out. Lets ignore the "I want to help people" part for this, you do you.

  1. If I opt-in for organ donation, why does a company get to make tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars on it. Why can I not require this to be done at-cost or allow my family to get some of the $$$ paid for my organs.

  2. Same argument for blood. I have a uncommon (but not rare) blood type. Why do you get to make a bunch of money off this? If I want to donate I want it done for free or at cost. If you profit from it, I should too.

I feel like every other month the local medical establishment calls for blood donations because they are at "critical levels". Then I read that companies that take donations make a LOT of money off of what you donate to someone else for "free" (who then are charged a stupid amount of money). If I donated it, Other than cost of transport, storage, administration, it should be free. (In my mind) but they charge so much for it that a HUGE amount of blood donated in America is sold all over the damn place. It's a fucking scam.

I am all for doing this out of the goodness of your heart. I just hate seeing that a company can profit off of it where I wanted to do something selfless and for the benefit for someone else with no expectation of anything. This is why I would want to be able to check a box saying "this donation must be at-cost and no more". I know that can still be abused and they will find loopholes. I just don't go out of my way to make some company money off of my labor/blood/etc. (Giving blood is still labor, you have to take time out of your life to do so).

Well, what do you think? If you are in the industry and can point out that I am wrong and don't know what I am talking about, please post some sources. I would appreciate it.

What are your thoughts? I have some problems with this for my own reasons. Ill start out. Lets ignore the "I want to help people" part for this, you do you. 1. If I opt-in for organ donation, why does a company get to make tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars on it. Why can I not require this to be done at-cost or allow my family to get some of the $$$ paid for my organs. 2. Same argument for blood. I have a uncommon (but not rare) blood type. Why do you get to make a bunch of money off this? If I want to donate I want it done for free or at cost. If you profit from it, I should too. I feel like every other month the local medical establishment calls for blood donations because they are at "critical levels". Then I read that companies that take donations make a LOT of money off of what you donate to someone else for "free" (who then are charged a stupid amount of money). If I donated it, Other than cost of transport, storage, administration, it should be free. (In my mind) but they charge so much for it that a HUGE amount of blood donated in America is sold all over the damn place. It's a fucking scam. I am all for doing this out of the goodness of your heart. I just hate seeing that a company can profit off of it where I wanted to do something selfless and for the benefit for someone else with no expectation of anything. This is why I would want to be able to check a box saying "this donation must be at-cost and no more". I know that can still be abused and they will find loopholes. I just don't go out of my way to make some company money off of my labor/blood/etc. (Giving blood is still labor, you have to take time out of your life to do so). Well, what do you think? If you are in the industry and can point out that I am wrong and don't know what I am talking about, please post some sources. I would appreciate it.
[–] • 13 pts

I was set to be an organ donor for most of my life until I learned 2 things:

1: You cannot harvest dead organs, they keep you on life support till they get your shit. Many Dr's have said that there is brain activity and many people feel the pain of their organs getting harvested. I've read stories of people having to be restrained and sedated to complete the procedure.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/10/16/nx-s1-5113976/organ-transplantion-mistake-brain-dead-surgery-still-alive

2: If you are an organ donor they can harvest your skin to make a new VAGINA for some freak tranny to get fucked. Yes, you read that right.

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[–] • 5 pts

Plus they have an incentive to consider your situation hopeless so they can get your organs.

[–] • 2 pts

There you go. 100%, If you did not opt-out already it is time to. Unless you want to be part of some freak's gaping hole.

[–] • 3 pts

I opted out a few years back when I learned this shit. Fuck that noise!! Everyone in my family knows and they all quit that shit.

[–] • 2 pts

Make sure anyone who might speak on your behalf while you are unconscious in a hospital also knows that you do not consent to organ donation. If you have not consented the companies that handle organ donations will have some smooth talking psychopath sit down with your loved ones and convince them that signing you up for organ donation is the best thing for everyone.

[–] • 2 pts

We've had family meetings about it!!

[–] • 1 pt

"Smooth talking psychopath" is correct sir or madam. And they will nag you until you give in. Put it in your will. Tell your friends and family. Tell your doc. Check your driver license, make sure it does not say yes for donation.

[–] • 1 pt

This is the guy that overdosed and they didn't even let him recover from that. I'd bet dollars to donuts the people involved were jeets and coloreds. But the organ recovery agency involved have had lots of problems in the past.

[–] • 0 pt

They should be removed from society.

[–] • 1 pt

I've heard in some cases, the patient cannot be sedated. There was a OR nurse who had to remove themselves from a organ harvest procedure because they could no longer stand to see the body writhing during the procedure.

[–] • 6 pts

I had a doctor tell me to not be an organ donor, as they will not perform all life saving measures to keep you alive. They would rather save the organs than you.

[–] • 4 pts

When (((they))) started doing the "you can't have it without the vaxx" shit, I immediately set my preference to "not a donor."

Not going to change, I don't care, fuck you you're gonna die.

[–] • 3 pts

We now also have the vaxxed vs pureblood issue to deal with. Those purebloods among us dont want blood transfusions with mrna bullshit contamination

[–] • 1 pt

There used to be a ban on Gay blood donors because of the risk of STD's/HIV-Aids/etc.

They now allow it.

[–] • 2 pts

Ain't no way I'm letting a nigger steal my organs.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

http://m.truthaboutorgandonation.com/?url=http://www%2etruthaboutorgandonation%2ecom%2faboutdrbyrne%2ehtml#2812

Prior to 1968 a person was declared dead only after their breathing and heart stopped for a determinate period of time. The current terminology "Brain Death" was unheard of. When surgeons realized they had the capability of taking organs from one seemingly “close to death” person and implanting them into another person to keep the recipient alive longer, a "Pandora’s Box" was opened.

ORGAN REMOVAL IS PERFORMED WHILE THE PATIENT IS GIVEN ONLY A PARALYZING AGENT BUT NO ANESTHETIC!

[–] • 0 pt

Legitimate and "above board" organ donation does not occur with any form of paralytic or sedation on the patient. That leaves the hospital and all staff involved wide open to a very nasty expensive lawsuit...

The definition of brain death was established by the Harvard institute which stated: brain death is the permanent and irreversible loss of function of the entire brain and brain stem.

OTOH, people seem to becoming less humane so...

[–] • 2 pts

My youngest is a bone marrow transplant recipient - big sis was the donor. So I used to be all gung-ho on all that shit. Then profiteering entered the picture, then scamdemic bullshit and now the reports of unethical harvesting methods/vivisection occuring in the US. Then throw in the little snippet elsewhere in this thread about potential skin donations being used to build some tranny-faggot a front hole?

Yeah, no - that's a hard pass. Even had my will and living will amended to prohibit harvesting of my organs.

[–] • 1 pt

Congratulations on finding a match! God bless your daughter for donating, that's a painful procedure.

I personally would do live donation to a family member (kidney, liver or lung lobe, marrow- stuff that's eligible), otherwise I am a big no to donation.

[–] • 1 pt

It shouldn't be a thing. It isn't my fault you lost the genetic lottery or abused your body.

Let's not overlook if they have marked you for death, they are going to keep you alive until they can find a match.

[–] • 1 pt

Same here. Uncommon blood but not necessarily "rare". As far as blood goes, O which is the most common blood type is highly in demand because it is the "universal donor"; in particular, O- which as no antigens on it's surface.

AB- blood, while considered the "rarest" is "univeral recipient". Can donate only to AB- but can receive any blood type.

Millions are made on donation and transplant while donor families get a hearty "hey thanks you're so generous!" Recipients pay through the nose for the transplant and ensuing live long anti-rejection drugs and coincident infections and/or diseases that occur in the recipient.

An organ transplant recipient trades one disease for another.

One of the reasons families are not paid or rewarded for organ donation is purely because people can be vicious. Need money? Kill the kid. Kill the spouse.

"Must be at cost". "At cost" is per organ. A kidney will and cost almost 100k usd. With the workup and evaluations involved that can go up to half million dollars. Generally these people are on govt medical insurance because they're often disabled from their illness.

Aint nothin' free.