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Honest question. Without going into too many details, if a US citizen came into $10-20 million would it be a better idea to become an expat in another country or would a homestead within the US be better?

As much as I love the US I'm not entirely sure the country can be saved any longer for a litany of reasons.

If becoming an expat is preferable, then where would be among the best places to go?

Honest question. Without going into too many details, if a US citizen came into $10-20 million would it be a better idea to become an expat in another country or would a homestead within the US be better? As much as I love the US I'm not entirely sure the country can be saved any longer for a litany of reasons. If becoming an expat is preferable, then where would be among the best places to go?

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Just remember, as an expat you still have to pay taxes in America yearly.

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Not if you renounce your citizenship. Though you’re not really an expat at that point….

Nomad Capitalist is a great resource into how give the us gov the middle finger

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> Just remember, as an expat you still have to pay taxes in America yearly.

Yeah from what little research I've done so far on the subject I do realize that. Which leads me to greater question. Is it possible to not have citizenship in any country? And obviously if I were going to go to the expat route I would be looking to give up citizenship to the US altogether.

At the current moment I'm just doing research and thinking before making any actual moves in that direction. I already live in a predominantly White area. However I don't like the long-term forecast of what's going on in the US and what I see coming. Nor do I really think there are too very many safe places within the borders of the US. I mean even if I were to set up a fairly large homestead and tried to invite others with us, we have Ruby Ridge and Waco as examples of what could potentially be fall any amongst that group.

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Honestly, even with the whole damn place going to shit you are probably best off in the US anyway. If you don't mind not having "big city services" move to a small town in a very red state and get some land.

The zero-citizenship thing is hard. It would basically make any type of international travel impossible since almost no nation will allow you entry without a state passport of some type.

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> Honestly, even with the whole damn place going to shit you are probably best off in the US anyway. If you don't mind not having "big city services" move to a small town in a very red state and get some land.

Yeah I'm a country boy. Homesteading is my passion. I really want my children to be able to grow up in the life that I grew up in. I don't think I saw my first brown person until I was damn near a teenager. I'd also love to be able to assist as many of my fellow whites as is possible. Without being Waco'd.

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As bad as it is, there is no better

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I have given this a lot of thought. One of my best friends received about $7M (with a bit more on the way) when his family sold a corporation they held. He's talked about moving to Thailand for a long time. I can't stand that thought, but he says the quality of life is much much better than here in the USA. He has shown me that with as little as $5M, you can live the rest of your life like a wealthy elite.

If I need to abscond from the USA, my first choices will be Panama, Argentina, and maybe Russia (we'll have to see how that turns out). I have a close friend who moved to Panama a long time ago. He and his friend co-own a small hotel on the east coast and live very comfortably. He told me they'd be willing to sell it for $1.8M and if you lived there it would provide an income of around $100k/year.

Hope this helps.

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Fight along with your patriots or die alone to a horde of niggers in some random shithole.. hm

Thats an easy choice for me.

Its time that we stop running from our problems and restore order.

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> Fight along with your patriots or die alone to a horde of niggers in some random shithole.. hm

I don't really have much problem with fighting with my people by my side. The problem is that nobody wishes to do that. You can't even talk about that among fellow Patriots without being called a glownigger or anything else along those lines. Good luck finding a group that hasn't been infiltrated by feds. Then furthermore you'd still have to battle at least half of all the whites who have been brainwashed. And at this point in time I'm not sure there is much hope. Because you would literally be fighting 75 to 90% of the population in order to restore the country to its former glory. Best case scenario the US splits into territories.

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The time to fight is not now, at least not physically. A lot of people are still reasonably comfortable for the time being. Until more awaken and/or experience grief and truely struggle to provide for their loved ones, you can't expect any physical pushback.

What your contemplating is giving up and turning your back on the peace and prosperity we once had as a society just because things are expected to get tough.

Renouncing citizenship and moving off is essentially quitting.

That the way I see it at least.

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From the way I see it we're well beyond past the time of pushing back. In 1913 when we went to the Federal reserve system that was the time to push back. When they started forcing desegregation upon us that was the time to start pushing back. The 1965 immigration and naturalization act that was the time to push back. The assassination of JFK that was the time to push back. The twin towers coming down and realizing it was the government that was the time to push back. The decades of allowing illegals to flow into the country until the point we see now is too late. Biden flying in how many hundreds of thousands of afghanis while leaving our troops overseas that was the time to push back. Now that we are practically a minority within our own country it's almost too late to push back. Ruby ridge Waco Texas those were times to stand up and push back. All of our words fall on deaf ears the time for action is either going to be upon us or there won't be enough of us to be able to do anything.

According to you waiting until we're all starving and have no energy or supplies is when people should start pushing back?

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EU does have abig refugee problem, but it's mainly cities, and in some cases it's exaggerated due to media which we here consume focusing on this problem.

Anyway, if you have money, go and visit the place first.

If you have Irish ancestry you could sort out dual citizens and move there or use it for free movement within EU.

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> If you have Irish ancestry you could sort out dual citizens and move there or use it for free movement within EU.

I don't believe I have any Irish ancestry but my wife is almost 100% Irish. Would that count?

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It looks like it does:

If you are married to, or in a civil partnership with, an Irish citizen, you can apply to become an Irish citizen by naturalisation.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/irish-citizenship/becoming-an-irish-citizen-through-naturalisation/#e3c043

She could get citizenship through ancestry and you could apply for it through her if you decided to live in Ireland.

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You'd need some corporations in other countries that have low/zero tax, then you'd need to transfer the funds but banks are required to declare large amounts to the IRS. I don't know if it is still the case, but you used to be able to get citizenship in Italy pretty easily, and then have access to all EU countries and could move freely.

The big thing to watch out for is that the US is (I believe) the only country in the world that makes their citizens file taxes if they're not living in their home country. You would have to renounce your citizenship to not have to do this again, but the IRS will block your renouncing of US citizenship unless you are fully square with them.

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> You would have to renounce your citizenship

I'm fine with that

> IRS will block your renouncing of US citizenship unless you are fully square with them.

This wouldn't be a problem

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The problem is several banks won't work with you unless you are not a US citizen. If you can't get it renounced you could have problems with any employment in another country, wire transfers, etc.

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Any idea if a person would have trouble bringing a bunch of silver and gold with them out of the country?

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> The problem is several banks won't work with you unless you are not a US citizen. If you can't get it renounced you could have problems with any employment in another country, wire transfers, etc.

This is the type of info I need to learn about in order to properly weigh my decisions.

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> you used to be able to get citizenship in Italy pretty easily, and then have access to all EU countries and could move freely.

Isn't the EU already pretty screwed due to all the Muslim migration?

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Yes, but it's like saying the US is entirely screwed because of L.A. and other libtard cities. There are still ok places to live, you just have to find them.

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> Yes, but it's like saying the US is entirely screwed because of L.A. and other libtard cities. There are still ok places to live, you just have to find them.

Sorry just reread that. Me and my UScentric mind took that out of context meaning I assumed we were speaking of the US. Not Europe. I do get what you're saying though. And I do understand that historically our people were able to push back against more severe odds. At this point I'm just looking into potential long-term solutions. Preferably solutions where I can help out other fellow Whites. Just looking at what options are.

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> There are still ok places to live, you just have to find them.

I get that. However we are reaching a critical mass. Half of Whites are so hopelessly lost that they need to be considered enemy combatants. And depending on which poll numbers you actually believe we are already less than half of the population. Meaning that at least three quarters of the US is against the quarter that would fight on our side. And even those you then have to wonder about how many would actually fight and not turn against the rest. I'm from a predominantly White area. However I'm looking at the larger picture. If there's only pockets of us here and there then chances of long-term survival are not that great. I myself would like to find a place for my family that has the optimum chance of survival. And then when you take into consideration that slowly the politicians in the US are creating laws which push our people into third class citizens then it really makes things look even more grim.

Who knows, I'm just kind of stuck in my head today. Today is the one year anniversary since my dad's death. I'm not necessarily in a good place mentally right now.

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look up getting a citizenship in Monaco. No taxes, but there are some weird rules.

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I'd go straight to Poland. Husband has ancestry there and I'd just pay for legal immigration.

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Belize was the go-to 25 years ago.