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Are they incorporating all that shitty pig iron that Mao convinced them to make into everything they sell us just to get rid of it?

As most of us know, it’s nearly impossible to find anything made in the US and Chinese steel is truly inferior. I just had a flag receiver shear off in a gust of 40mph wind. The “metal” felt like an alloy of shitty metal and plastic.

Are they incorporating all that shitty pig iron that Mao convinced them to make into everything they sell us just to get rid of it? As most of us know, it’s nearly impossible to find anything made in the US and Chinese steel is truly inferior. I just had a flag receiver shear off in a gust of 40mph wind. The “metal” felt like an alloy of shitty metal and plastic.
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China's been subsidizing their steel industry for decades at a loss just to bankrupt US steel manufacturers. Now that they have near monopoly, you get shitty grades of steel.

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>This happened long after I realized the Chinese were turbo-jews on steroids.

Have a read (pic8.co)

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...I realized the Chinese were turbo-jews on steroids.

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That is what tariffs are for. Since they are not used, that tells me that our “leaders” want to destroy the US.

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Hey now, they're not corrupt, their kids are just amazingly succesful artists whose work is only popular in China, Ukraine, and other corrupt crapholes.

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We need steel foundries in the US. Since Obama they've deliberately let the industry die. Japanese steel is good, but you won't find that in any consumer goods outside of kitchen knives.

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Yes, this is all deliberate and going as planned. Killing off manufacturing started us on the road to ruin.

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They have no problem faking everything from composition to certifications.

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They don’t give a shit about us, another reason I try very hard to buy American whenever possible. When Levi’s started manufacturing in Mexico, I found two companies out of Texas that make their jeans in the US. It’s frustrating that I have to work so hard to try to buy American. It should be the opposite.

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Chabu- dao "It's good enough." Communism.

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Fuck me, I was all excited to hear opinions about Chink metal music. I am sorely disappointed to see us discussing materials and ore in here.

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I’m not a metal fan, and if I knew anything about it I’d start that thread.

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A to your Q in one word, corruption. Even special ordered, specific types aren't always what they're stamped. Say your typical 18/10 used in utensils. Could be cut with a lesser metal. (Keep in mind idk much about the types of steel, it's just an example.) Bonus, in China, they don't care, even if it's poisonous metal. (Now you see why I used that example.) As long as the product is delivered, on time and in full, the company saves face. (Big in asian countries.)

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It's only about saving face with Chinese. To everyone else, they delivered and you paid. If you didn't confirm before paying, that's on you.

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It’s safer to buy dinnerware and flatware at a thrift store. Fiesta is still made in the US, and some Anchor and Corning products.

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Because it's Chinese

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I used to buy from Alibaba and Ali-Express. Some items were quality and exactly what I wanted, but more often than not, they didn’t even resemble the picture or description and I couldn’t use them as intended. Now Temu is trying the same thing since everyone knows about Ali. It’s disappointing because I’d rather buy American. I just placed an order on eBay, and the default setting is always worldwide so you get cheap Chinese crap shown first. I change that to US only, and two of the senders were Chinese names here in the US. I’m going to have to investigate further on every damn item so that I don’t buy from the Chinese.

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they know how to make good steel, they are not stupid

they give you whatever you are willing to accept (not you personally, the company importing the steel)

just squeezing money out of USA.... (and the rest of the world)

that is the same that (((USA))) has done since forever

NOTE: I am NOT talking about people, the farmers, the low/miiddle level workers in USA, I talk about ((the top)))

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We need manufacturing back in the US. I fantasize about winning the lottery and starting a manufacturing business.

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There's an old 4chan post about don't learn chinese/mandarin because you'll be the guy the company sends to china and it'll be on you when the chinese rip off your company. Anon went in to detail about how the samples will be legit and the first few sheets on top of the pile in the shipping container will be legit but the rest will be trash. He said they as a business culture don't feel like they got a good deal unless they have screwed you over.

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Someone linked that above, I’d seen part of it before. It sounds like hell.

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Thought this was a music thread for a second. Probably still applies

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I know very little about metal or I’d start the music thread, would probably have the same responses.

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In a nutshell: Minimal quality control in the production process, and zero quality assurance measures in place due to rampant corruption. High strength steel requires careful control of melt temperatures for specific periods of time. Also alloying agents need to be added at precise times and in precise amounts. Lastly - the pouring, forming, rolling and cooling steps also require precision and consistency. In the absence of same, garbage in equals garbage out.

TLDR: In general their manufacturing just sucks ass.

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I think they’re able to, they can easily follow a formula. But not sure they make quality steel for their own manufacturers. Just because they can doesn’t mean they do.

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Oh they are able - particlarly with products at the lower end of the technologic spectrum. Low alloy steel used in various grades of reinforcing bars for concrete? No problemo. High strength high alloy thermal steel like Invar that requires high precision to smelt and cast? Not so much. Under threat and coercion for military use? Certainly. But for general export in commercial markets @Solstiare 's response is the rule.