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This is probably only going to be interesting to people that are "preppers" but it is something people ask a lot about.

So, what do you do for medical prep? What kind of medications? What kind of med kit? Do you build your own kit or do you have a pre-built one? Do you have a "medical plants" book or something?

I have seen some companies pop up around that will now prescribe you various things like antibiotics, hcq, zpack, etc that you can't just buy at the store and a normal doctor won't prescribe them to you because you are "prepping". But, they get around that by having doctors on staff and they will prescribe a medical kit with various non OTC medications and instructions/guides of when to use what. I feel like that could be useful if you live somewhere that there are large scale natural disasters or if you live far away from medical facilities. What does everyone else think about those companies? Have you used one before?

This is probably only going to be interesting to people that are "preppers" but it is something people ask a lot about. So, what do you do for medical prep? What kind of medications? What kind of med kit? Do you build your own kit or do you have a pre-built one? Do you have a "medical plants" book or something? I have seen some companies pop up around that will now prescribe you various things like antibiotics, hcq, zpack, etc that you can't just buy at the store and a normal doctor won't prescribe them to you because you are "prepping". But, they get around that by having doctors on staff and they will prescribe a medical kit with various non OTC medications and instructions/guides of when to use what. I feel like that could be useful if you live somewhere that there are large scale natural disasters or if you live far away from medical facilities. What does everyone else think about those companies? Have you used one before?

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[–] 9 pts

A couple of our guys here at the VFW were medics, here is a list they gave to us one time: FIRST AID: Checklist

1 each Basic First Aid Book, in plain language
2 each Bandages (Ace) elastic, 4"
4 each Bandages, gauze, 2" x 2"
2 each Bandages, gauze, 3" x 3" and 4" x 4"
1 each Bandages, gauze, 18" x 36"
2 each Bandages for burns (Second Skin) 3" x 3-1/2"
3 each Triangular Bandages
1 box Band-Aids in assorted sizes, flexible and moisture resistant best
1 box Bicarbonate of Soda
1 box Butterfly sutures or Leukostrips
1 each Cold/heat Pack, reusable
1 box Cotton Swabs
1 box Dental Floss
1 box Epsom Salts
1 each Eyedropper
2 rolls First Aid Tape, 1/2" x 10 yards and 1" x 5 yards
4 pair Gloves, lightweight rubber, (for medical and hygiene purposes)
1 tube Insect Repellent
1 bottle Isopropyl Alcohol
1 box Moistened Towelettes
1 each Nail Clipper
1 box Razor Blades, single edge
1 box Safety Pins, assorted sizes
1 each SAM splint
1 each Scalpel
1 each Scissors, Surgical pointed
1 each Snake bite kit
1 bottle Soap, liquid, antibacterial
6 each Tongue Depressors
2 each Thermometers, disposal OR 1 digital, (no breakables with mercury)
1 each Tweezers
1 tube Analgesic Cream (Camphophenique, Paraderm Plus)
1 box Antacid (Mylanta, Tums, Pepto-Bismal)
1 series Antibiotic (Tetracycline for general infections)
1 box Anti-Diarrheal (Imodium, Diasorb, Lomotil)
1 box Anti-fungal (Desenex, Micatin, Tinactin, Lotrimin)
1 box Antihistamine (Benadryl, Claratyne)
1 tube Antiseptic Ointment (Neosporin, Dettol)
1 each Anti-toxin (DMSO)
1 tube Burns (Hydrocortisone, Derm-Aid)
1 box Cold/Flu Tablets (Nyquil, Repetabs)
1 box Constipation (Ex-Lax, Dulcolax, Durolax)
1 bottle Cough Syrup (Robitussen, Dimetap)
1 box Decongestant (Actifed, Sudafed, Repetabs)
1 bottle Eye Drops (Visine)
1 tube Hemorrhoid Relief (Preparation H, Anusol)
1 box Ibuprofen (Advil, Nurofen, Paracetamol)
1 bottle Itching, Insect/Rash (Caladril, Calamine)
1 tube Itching (Dibucaine, Paraderm, Lanacane)
1 tube Lip Balm (ChapStick, Blistex)
1 tube Lubricant, Water Soluble (K-Y Jelly)
1 bottle Nasal Decongestant (Sinex, Ornex)
1 box Nausea, Motion Sickness (Kwells, Dramamine, Travacalm, Meclizine)
1 box Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever (Tylenol)
1 box Pain, Fever Reducer (Panadeine, Mobigesic)
1 box Pain Reliever with Codeine (Panamax, Tylenol 3)
1 jar Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline)
1 bottle Poison Ivy/Oak
1 packet Poison Absorber (Activated Charcoal)
1 bottle Radiation Protection (Potassium Iodide-[KI] or Potassium Iodate-[KIO3] 1 can Sunburn Relief (Solarcaine, Paxyl)
1 bottle Sunscreen (SPF 15 at least)
1 bottle Vomit Inducer (Ipecac, Activated charcoal)
1 tube Yeast Infection Treatment (Gyne-Lotrimin, Monistat) 1 package of Tampax extra absorbent (for use on bullet wounds)

[–] 2 pts

Now that is a list. Going to have to take some time to go through that. Are you keeping this in a spreadsheet or something?

[–] 3 pts

Yes in spreadsheet form then printed then laminated; inserted into bug-out medic's bag. I just posted another list more like Prepper stuff, same with that done as a checklist with bag ready to go.

[–] 2 pts

That is a good idea. Do you use the spreadsheet to track usage or "use by" date? I know most use-by dates are garbage but for some things it can matter at least a little. It's not like everyone is going through half of their med bag every year (I hope) because of need/emergency.

[–] 1 pt

Good list. I'd add colloidal silver & clove oil.

[–] 1 pt

Great additions, especially Clove Oil for toothaches until I find that rusted needle-nose pliers to yank out the tooth. And I forgot to add a quart of Everclear alcohol for medicinal purposes, of course.

[–] [deleted] 5 pts
  • Built my own first aid kit (based on scouting knowledge when we had to do so) - remember to include splints, ripped up sheets (gauze and shit doesn't cut it)
  • Stocked OTC stuff from
  • Got a still (to make sterilizing alcohol if needed, once the stuff I stock runs out)
  • Thought about getting a non-OTC med kit like the one you described (The Wellness Company is one)

Great topic. I have wanted to discuss something like this in for a while. Interested to know other fruitful preps

[–] 3 pts

Great start to the thread. Thanks, I'm going to look into the OTC list.

I will also mention to those that live in the US.... Sometimes stores ran by people from other countries have things that are technically not something you can buy in the US but they easily get past customs and no one is going into the small Russian store to check what medications they are selling along with the charcoal tablets and imported preserves.

You do have to know what you are looking for or at least speak a little of the language of the store you are in to get assistance in what you are looking for though.

[–] 4 pts

Costco variety pack of Band Aids, bottle of rubbing alcohol and a hiking first aid kit with some gauze, tweezers etc. Old T shirts work in a pinch if it's worse than that

[–] 4 pts

For the medical, be WELL stocked with Ivermectin, thousands of pills for each member of your family and zinc tablets to go with it. Iodine in vast amounts is also great for fighting off a variety of illnesses.

A knowledge of the plants in your area and what they can be used for in addition to food. A good one that is damn near everywhere are dandelions. All parts of the plant are edible, including the root, and help with your liver and kidneys, which is going to be vital if you ever need to eat some questionable food. Just make sure that if you are gathering them from a yard (I hope you would be far away from a city in this scenario) that the yard has not been treated with some kind of chemicals.

[–] 3 pts

It is really amazing how we went from "Dandelions can be used for everything, including making beer and wine to. Spray them with toxic chemicals until they are gone". I get it, not everyone love's seeing them on their stupid grass lawn. You should be growing food. Not grass.

[–] 3 pts

If everyone had like 4 egg laying hens, food scarcity would not be a thing. They can eat ze bugs, and give us great protein. I bet they would even gobble up dandelions if you cut them up for them.

[–] 3 pts

I've said it a hundred or more times here and ill say it again.

I can not wait to get the FUCK out of this communist state. Get some land. get some Chickens. Maybe some other livestock (I have experience).

I want a huge garden that would produce more food than I could hope to eat and will preserve most of the rest or trade/give to neighbors. If I have the space and the land is right, a sub-level greenhouse that can produce mostly year round. So long as the world does not go completely to shit in the next year it may be a reality.

Sources for shit tons of ivermectin?

[–] 1 pt

You can buy online (try ivermectin.com, you might need a prescription first, Inhave bever used them), if you have easy access to Mexico, you can buy it for dirt cheap there, you'll need a prescription to get it back across rhe border though. The best bet is to ask close trusted friends who are unvaccinated, one of them will probably have a reliable source.

[–] 3 pts

On the medical issues side of things I'd go for some form of NSAID (like Tylenol), Asprin, oral glucose, epi pens are commonly available. Antibiotics, antinausea medication (like Zofran), nitroglycerin, opioids for severe pain would be nice but not as realistic.

Always think about what you're preparing for. What conditions do you have? What do family members have? (Rhetorical) Diabetes, severe allergies, respiratory disease, heart problems? There might be only so much you can do for certain ailments if infrastructure were to collapse.

Trauma side of things, cover breaks, bleeds, burns. Remember ABCs, airway, breathing, and circulation. Splints and dressings (in a variety of sizes), bandages, burn sheets, emergency blankets (the mylar kind), oral and nasal adjuncts (look up how to use them, they aren't hard), bag-valve mask, chest seals. You could get more advanced with things like decompression needles, suture kits, a heart monitor / defibrillator and IV medications, but those require advanced knowledge and may be harder to obtain.

I'm by no means an expert, just my two cents. I'm sure I forgot something.

[–] 2 pts

All great advice. Maybe I should have posted this in preppers but it seems like this sub gets more traffic. Its good to see so many people posint useful things. I have a lot to research this weekend already. Thanks!

[–] 3 pts

Here's another list from our VFW conversations: Prepper Ideas and supplies:

Emergency (foil) blankets x 4 Iodine Tablets for water purification Activated Carbon Water Filter device 2400 Cal food bars MRE x 10 days x 3 people x 2meals/day = 60 MRE's Canned bacon Fire Starter and tinder paste x 5 Entrenching Tool x 2 Pocket chain saw Parange or survival machete Camp or survival axe 500 feet paracord Tooth paste tablets Soap Shampoo Toothpaste Insect repellent Snake bite kit

Camping tent Tent stove (propane bottle) Lantern (propane bottle) Propane bottles x 10 Long reach lighters x 10 Ground cloth - waterproof x 2 Shelter half x 2 Tent pegs - extra Peg mallet (rubber hammer) Cooking utensils Can openers x 5 Water resistant led flashlights Red filters for flash lights Sleeping bag x 2 Sleeping bag pillow x 2

First Aid bag: Level II first aid to include scalpels, eye care, bleeding clotting agents;

.22 pistol with supressor 500 rounds .22 hollow point sub-sonic ammo Personal firearms with holsters and 500 rounds ammo hollow point for each Large caliber rifle with scope and bipod 12 ga Shotgun with 100 rounds buckshot, 25 round slugs, 100 rounds+ birdshot Gun cleaning tools and supplies Crossbow with 50 bolts with razor heads 50 blunt point bolts Compound Bow and 50 arrows with razor heads Replacement strings for bows

Protective Mask (2) with extra filters

Large capacity back pack

[–] 0 pt

Nice, ill have to look over this one. Going to be making a big list this weekend and checking what I do and don't have.

Thank you!

[–] 2 pts

We have a ton of stuff. First aid, antibiotics, bandages, reference books, and now ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and several cases of toilet paper :)

[–] 2 pts

Wait, you DONT have an entire shipping container of TP? How are you going to barter in the fallen world? Bottle caps or something? That's ridiculous. People will want TP.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

Here are the VERY basics that I purely hypothetically (duh) keep in the kit:

Amoxicillin (antibiotic) Prednisone (anti-inflammatory) opiods (obvious) aleve (nisad, is processed by the kidneys / pain below the neck) asprin (processed by the liver, fever reducer / pain above the neck) silverdine (burns) triamicinolone (steroid creme) iodine (severe wound disinfection) peroxide (minor wound disinfection) bacitracin (obvious) quickclot (emergency wounds that won't stop bleeding) bag balm (diaper rash / bed sores, etc) stitch kit tick remover topical numbing agent such as lidocaine / cocaine diphedramine (sleep / anti nausea / antihistamine)

of course there's more that you should have on hand, but this should cover the basics.

Please, don't share the following outside the group, because, it would basically fuck up the premise of even having it if everyone also had it: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/057841452X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title It's basically, what animal medications can be used on humans and their label names. I have found it to be moderately useful in a pinch.

Also, you can get anything that isn't on a federal schedule from india in the mail as long as it's for an animal and isn't more than like 500 doses.

Good luck, fren.

[–] 0 pt

Yeah, I am well aware of the "animal medication" stuff. That has been the "backdoor" for decades.

I used to use peroxide when younger but there was a huge push on how it can actually be bad for wound treatment? What are your thoughts on that? I don't have any on-hand but have plenty of rubbing alcohol.

Is there a situation where one is better than the other? I feel like I knew that at some time.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

My thought is that you shouldn't use rubbing alcohol on an open wound. It destroys animal cells. (unless, maybe, you cut yourself on a nasty sewer pipe or something where you have a serious concern for developing sepsis and don't have anything else.)

The whole goal is to kill as much bacteria as possible that got into your wound without also causing too much damage to your own tissues in the process.

In my honest opinion, for small cuts, peroxide is pretty good for flushing and killing bacteria. I say this because with small wounds, your major concern is preventing an infection, you're much less concerned with encouraging immediate healing as it isn't an impairing wound (but, it could be if it gets infected). For more serious wounds, Iodine, but you still don't want to use it on really deep puncture wounds where it could pool, because it will eventually damage cells just like peroxide does.

If you are looking for a less intense and natural alternative, I've used honey to some success. It has been used extensively throughout history, and there are many studies on the topic.

[–] 1 pt

Anyone have a list of what's in a traumahawk med kit? That'd be the pinnacle of a med kit.

[–] 1 pt

A pocket sized S.A.S. survival guide. Two books: Where there are no doctors Where there is no dentist While books are heavy, a foundational library of sorts can be set up to fill a single milk crate. Trying to cover all angles can be daunting, so a primer, such as Rawles: How to survive the end of the world as we know it, is useful.

[–] 1 pt

All good stuff. I would also encourage everyone who carries ( and even those who don't) to have IFAK/Stop The Bleed/ Blow Out Kits in their vehicle and/or close at hand. Build your own or buy a legit prefab. There are a multitude of knockoff C.A.T. tourniquets on the market. Just ensure to procure some with a metal windlass. Pick up a copy of Tactical Combat Casualty Care. TCCC. The book on field medical care was rewritten thanks to the lessons learned during GWOT. Take a course and practice, practice, practice. None of this gear is worth jack shit if you do not know how to use it.

[–] 1 pt

Great advice. I have minimal training but its a really good idea to get more. Ill look into this too. Thanks!

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