If you don't believe in God, then I cannot help you. Life is nihalism without a Creator.
until i have proof that what I was taught is wrong
This is a logical fallacy. You should demand proof before you believe. What we have been taught to do is accept the theory of the masters and demand that everyone else prove it is wrong.
Hitchens's razor
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
Globe earth is asserted without evidence. Therefore, i will rejct it until it is proven.
I will give you emperical evidence
We do not experience a moving earth
We see the sun passing over us.
Therefore, emperically, we are on a fixed plane with a sun that is moving independently over us.
THAT is emperical. We are taught to deny our own eyes. Sounds crazy because you, like me, have grown up being told that we're on a sphere, so we fit what we see around us into that model. That model has never been emperically proven to be true.
I can run the laws of physics through my head to the best of my knowledge and create the universe in which we live. it makes sense to me. But, I have ran other scenerios through my head that could also be true, but i chalk up to fantasy because, within the many theories and scenerios I have ran though my head, not all of them can be true because of conflicting values.
For example, for a story I would like to write one day, I imagine the universe was started by a male and female dragon and they laid a clutch of eggs that gravitated towords each other to form a sphere. It remained stationary as the Father turned into a sun, and the Mother turned into a moon in order to incubate the eggs. The growing baby dragon dreams effected the evolution of the bacteria from their eggs on the planet developing all different kinds of life until a more perfect life form evolved that could be a conduit of the dragons life force because their anatomy was upright. Eventually the eggs would hatch destroying all life that evolved on the planet except those who realized who and what they were and either became divine beings or developed tech that would allow them to escape the planet. The survivors with tech would one day colonize other planets, while the divine beings would eventually be precieved as gods.
But that can't be true, theres too many other probabilities.
I'm reading through the book of Enoch (removed from the bible) and it's implying the earth is stationary and the moon and sun travel through portals. havnt finished the book yet. So don't get all defensive and weird on me just yet, I too contemplate all facets of reality, even just for fun, and sometimes it results in a better understanding of the universe.
Although, I cant fathom why or how we ended up on a flat earth. You have yet to provide any compelling evidence of your claims simply because I do what a hell of a lot of people do, believe in a God. I still do not have a good reason to not believe in Him and telling me thats enough for you to give up on your quest suggests you are acting under false pretenses. It doesnt matter if what you believe is true if youre not willing to put the work in to help others achieve a higher level of understanding despite you coming in hot acting like you know and want to share something important
if youre not willing to put the work in to help others achieve a higher level of understanding despite you coming in hot acting like you know and want to share something important
I do the work. I have put my money, time, and effort into providing a service to this community for free for over 5 years.
I am writing this to you in the faint hope that God may open your eyes to the truth, as He has done for me.
I have shown you that your beliefs are based on false premise, but this is not enough for you. I keep telling people to pray about this stuff, but most don't want to hear it. They would rather lean on their own understanding.
If you don't believe in God, then I cannot help you. Life is nihalism without a Creator.
I have to admit, when I first read that line, I thought you said "If you do believe in God, then I cannot help you. Life is nihalism without a Creator. " I thought you were trying to tell me life is nihalism which was changing my opinion of you. So, sorry about that.
I know how frustrating it is to have a good grip on reality when everyone else seems to disrespect it as a default response. My brother has accused me of being brainwashed and manipulated by people who want to take advantage of me, when the truth is, conforming to my gender roles as a housekeeper and mother has ended my seemingly infinite capacity for depression. Cooking and cleaning for everyone is a welcome challenge. While all my siblings were going to school full time in their youth, I was stuck with my mother. But I think my loneliness was key to my ability to think for myself and draw my own conclusions about reality without needing someone to hold my hand. I didnt listen to the news, brainwashed teachers or hang out with friends much to be influenced by their opinions.
(fahrenheit-451') Denham’s Dentifrice; they toil not, neither do they spin,” said Montag, eyes shut. “Where do we go from here? Would books help us?” “Only if the third necessary thing could be given us. Number one, as I said, quality of information. Number two: leisure to digest it. And number three: the right to carry out actions based on what we learn from the interaction of the first two. And I hardly think a very old man and a fireman turned sour could do much this late in the game. . . . Number two: leisure to digest it.
I have had the leisure to digest my thoughts and think for myself, while my friends and family have not. I've hiked countless miles and have spent hours sitting on mountain tops by myself meditating on God's word and all facets of the universe. Here's a verse that I meditated on alot:
1 John 4:8 - But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 1 John 4:16 - We know how much God loves us, and we have put our trust in his love. God is love, and all who live in love live in God, and God lives in them.
I have talked to my neighbor who used to hold a position in the church and he too has discussed with me that the Bible actually talks about the earth not being a sphere, and that its actually in a fixed position. So, I have to reread the Bible, as I have not read through it seriously since I was very young.
“Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you” (1 Thessalonians 5:16-17).
This I gave alot of thought to when meditating, I used to try and stay in a constant state of prayer which I think helped me out alot. The guy I am engaged with takes this to the next level, as he is always in a constant state of prayer, but with some extra steps. He flexes and stretches his entire body constantly, even as he sleeps. He thinks this is a constant form of physical meditation he can use to fix his body, and he would like to teach others to do the same so they can too become a more perfect version of themselves. Though, no one takes him seriously.
Anyways, I am curious how you came to the conclusions you did, but if i meditate and think on it myself, I will probably not come up with the exact same conclusion as you. But, I am interested in hearing how you came up with this conclusion.
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