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I'd say it's hard to believe aliens developed tech that allows them to travel long enough distances to come to our planet to mess around. But, there's other ways aliens could exist. For example, humans could have developed tech a long time ago and colonized outer space somehow, and they could have done that long enough to have evolved into a separate species. I like the theory that alien life forms like tetra grades were on meteors and asteroids that were brought to our planet when the planet was still being developed and evolved in the primordial soup along with local species that were evolving naturally on the planet.

I know the government likes to talk about aliens when they are trying to distract the populations from other things going on at that time, but that doesn't prove aliens don't exist.

Anyways, I'd like to hear your theories on why aliens couldnt possibly exist. Although, even if there are no aliens on this planet, it is still possible in my opinion for life to develop on planets too far away to interfere with our evolution.

I'd say it's hard to believe aliens developed tech that allows them to travel long enough distances to come to our planet to mess around. But, there's other ways aliens could exist. For example, humans could have developed tech a long time ago and colonized outer space somehow, and they could have done that long enough to have evolved into a separate species. I like the theory that alien life forms like tetra grades were on meteors and asteroids that were brought to our planet when the planet was still being developed and evolved in the primordial soup along with local species that were evolving naturally on the planet. I know the government likes to talk about aliens when they are trying to distract the populations from other things going on at that time, but that doesn't prove aliens don't exist. Anyways, I'd like to hear your theories on why aliens couldnt possibly exist. Although, even if there are no aliens on this planet, it is still possible in my opinion for life to develop on planets too far away to interfere with our evolution.

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If you don't believe in God, then I cannot help you. Life is nihalism without a Creator.

I have to admit, when I first read that line, I thought you said "If you do believe in God, then I cannot help you. Life is nihalism without a Creator. " I thought you were trying to tell me life is nihalism which was changing my opinion of you. So, sorry about that.

I know how frustrating it is to have a good grip on reality when everyone else seems to disrespect it as a default response. My brother has accused me of being brainwashed and manipulated by people who want to take advantage of me, when the truth is, conforming to my gender roles as a housekeeper and mother has ended my seemingly infinite capacity for depression. Cooking and cleaning for everyone is a welcome challenge. While all my siblings were going to school full time in their youth, I was stuck with my mother. But I think my loneliness was key to my ability to think for myself and draw my own conclusions about reality without needing someone to hold my hand. I didnt listen to the news, brainwashed teachers or hang out with friends much to be influenced by their opinions.

(fahrenheit-451') Denham’s Dentifrice; they toil not, neither do they spin,” said Montag, eyes shut. “Where do we go from here? Would books help us?” “Only if the third necessary thing could be given us. Number one, as I said, quality of information. Number two: leisure to digest it. And number three: the right to carry out actions based on what we learn from the interaction of the first two. And I hardly think a very old man and a fireman turned sour could do much this late in the game. . . . Number two: leisure to digest it.

I have had the leisure to digest my thoughts and think for myself, while my friends and family have not. I've hiked countless miles and have spent hours sitting on mountain tops by myself meditating on God's word and all facets of the universe. Here's a verse that I meditated on alot:

1 John 4:8 - But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 1 John 4:16 - We know how much God loves us, and we have put our trust in his love. God is love, and all who live in love live in God, and God lives in them.

I have talked to my neighbor who used to hold a position in the church and he too has discussed with me that the Bible actually talks about the earth not being a sphere, and that its actually in a fixed position. So, I have to reread the Bible, as I have not read through it seriously since I was very young.

“Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you” (1 Thessalonians 5:16-17).

This I gave alot of thought to when meditating, I used to try and stay in a constant state of prayer which I think helped me out alot. The guy I am engaged with takes this to the next level, as he is always in a constant state of prayer, but with some extra steps. He flexes and stretches his entire body constantly, even as he sleeps. He thinks this is a constant form of physical meditation he can use to fix his body, and he would like to teach others to do the same so they can too become a more perfect version of themselves. Though, no one takes him seriously.

Anyways, I am curious how you came to the conclusions you did, but if i meditate and think on it myself, I will probably not come up with the exact same conclusion as you. But, I am interested in hearing how you came up with this conclusion.

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when the truth is, conforming to my gender roles as a housekeeper and mother has ended my seemingly infinite capacity for depression

I am very glad to hear this.

For health and nutrition, you should have your fiance check out Aajonus Vonderplanitz work. A good intro to this is the book "Spear of Aajonus" by Drake Shelton. I highly recommend reading this. I can personally attest to its truth.

As for flat earth in the Bible

Job 38:14 - The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its feature stand out like those of a garment.

Do you know of any sphere-shaped seals? I do not. A seal is flat. It is not a sphere. When you stamp clay under a seal, it is flat.

Ages ago I was set up, at the first, before the beginning of the earth. When there were no depths I was brought forth, when there were no springs abounding with water. Before the mountains had been shaped, before the hills, I was brought forth, before he had made the earth with its fields, or the first of the dust of the world. When he established the heavens, I was there; when he drew a circle on the face of the deep, when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth, then I was beside him, like a master workman, and I was daily his delight, rejoicing before him always, rejoicing in his inhabited world and delighting in the children of man.

- Proverbs 8:23‭-‬31 ESV

"Made firm the skies"? Globe earth states the skies are open, gaseous. So is the author a fool, writing what is false? Or perhaps a deceiver?

"Drew a circle on the face of the deep"? But we are told it is a sphere, so where did He draw the circle in the deep? Is God teaching us a falsehood here?

Consider first Matthew 11:25

At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children;

- Matthew 11:25 ESV

Here we see "book smarts" are not required to fathom the Creator and His truth.

Let us look now to Psalm 19:1

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

According to the psalmist, God's handiwork is exemplified by the firmament (the dome over the flat earth)

Back to Job

Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

- Job 37:18 KJV

In Genesis, we see God creating the Sun and Moon, luminaries of the night and day.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

- Genesis 1:14


I emplore you to pray and meditate on these things, as you have done throughout your life. God will reveal the glory of His creation to you, as He has done, and continues to do, for me.

I thank you for being willing to hear these things. The globe earth spell is one of the biggest deceptions of our time. It is no small thing to see through it.

Edit: Fix typo

I misspelled Aajonus' name in my comment. It is spelled "Aajonus Vonderplanitz"