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mcdonalds, local news...if you want this, download the app! Can't read a fox news article without "to continue reading for free, enter email". I don't eat there and could not care any less about fox news. Just curious. What are they gaining and what am I losing?

mcdonalds, local news...if you want this, download the app! Can't read a fox news article without "to continue reading for free, enter email". I don't eat there and could not care any less about fox news. Just curious. What are they gaining and what am I losing?

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They want your data. They also want to poke you as often as you'll let them to remind you they need your attention. But mostly, they want your data.

[–] 7 pts

Correct. Also, they can use push notifications to annoy you even when you're not using their app.

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From a code base, apps give the author much more control to do things with a person's device than through a browser.

I use apps as seldom as I can - just like I use cash as often as I can.

Don't let these fuckers get control of your device. It's really much more than just the data.

[–] 7 pts

Spying and notifications.

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I have seen this for years. Just like at gas stations. Save .25 cents per gallon, download our app. This happened a few years back when a grocery chain teamed up with a gas station chain. The scam was (what i call a scam) that download the app and get a customer number, when you purchase gas you enter your customer number in and save $$ PLUS you build points, then you can use those points and redeem as dollars at the grocery store.
I figured it was about tracking where you buy gas, how much gas, how much you spend on gas, a lot can be extrapolated from simple data points. And all that juicy data. And then when redeem points at grocery store, they now have all your data from there... which store did you go to, how far did you drive, how much did you spend. It also basically triangulated the store and gas station data. Even knowing how far you are likely to go for a "deal" as in how scam-able are you. It blew my mind that people just mindlessly sign up for this crap. Just enter your phone number to save!
Its all a damn scam to get info on the population and consumers. Imagine how valuable it is though, they do pay out money and in total savings can be 100's. Thats how valuable it is to them.

Also.. WTF is with this new crap that your phone number verifies your identity. They are going to link us all in with this BS. Since I dont have a phone number attached to me (as in a account with a major brand) I remain unverified at banks even. Its not like a have to prove who I am when i get a phone, I assume it has to do with credit reports, since the phone company checked my credit report and gave me a phone contract then the others use that as verification. So that equates to bad jew credit or no jew credit no phone for you slave and no bank accounts and no ......

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Lol, I'm sure it's a scam. Just wondered if I was missing something more nefarious. I keep noticing how more and more I'm no longer participating in what others consider normal.

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The phone verify thing is obnoxious, I’ve recently lost a couple old accounts because of that. Haven’t had that particular number in at least 10 years now suddenly you need it to log in and there’s no way around it.

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It's for tracking you.

Say you download the McDonalds app and use it a few times but one day you go to a Burger King or In and Out, they will know your location and you will get lambasted with pop up notifications saying things like "We miss you! Come in for 5 dollars off your 20 dollar order" or "It's been a long time since we saw you".

They know your location at all times and then their AI simply spams you with messages and deals to tempt you not to go elsewhere and attempt to cause guilt for going to competitors.

During the fake pandemic when literally everything was closed except airports (hmm... that doesnt seem like a good idea) I used the UberEats app back in 2020. I deleted it after a few months when I realized it was a waste of money and supported pajeets yet I still get emails and texts asking me "where are you? It's been so long!"

It's all a big tech conspiracy to allow pajeets to keep using their e-bikes and giant cube backpacks so hundreds of thousands of them don't leave their retarded jobs and potentially leave their plan of the Great Replacement.

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So many times when those blasted e-bikes have run past me I have resisted the strong urge to kick them as they pass so they'll fall over... I deserve some kind of medal for self-control.

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Ditto. Those stupid pajeets drive like they're back home at high speeds following no road rules or even sometimes speeding down sidewalks.

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It's about owning data. You never know what they are snagging. Geo, websites, voice, etc.

[–] 2 pts

I work at a company that thinks that the app is just "trendy" and every customer needs to download it. They dont even know why, they just see all competitors doing it so they have to do it better. While the app creators use anonymous datamining to sell it to whoever wants it. It does not matter if you as a person are completely anonymized; cluster data is still a predictor for behaviour.

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That's the take away init? People think they're anonymous but that's not the point. It's behavior.

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Yea I believe most non-Forbes 500 companies are just copying others to survive, and may be doing it so without realizing the danger they are posing to their own customers. Plus its not popular nowadays to force people to use apps to gain stuff.

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Local Mom&Pop shops are convinced that it is important. In truth an HTML website that is mobile-compatible is a better option.

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Back in the late '80's early '90's when you purchased a computer it came with "programs" the ancient word for "apps". There'd be tons of them on your desktop, but mostly they were for games, productivity, etc., stuff that generally went through the browser to the website.

I don't do "apps". F* "apps".

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I get calls to pick up lunch sometimes. They whine when I charge the full price. I won't use them.

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Tracking and data.

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What are they gaining and what am I losing?

A lot.

The mobile device ecosphere is similar but dramatically more "data-holistic" than the average computer. So, they gain biometrics, general usage, other apps visited before and after the app, geolocation and associated data, and all the things agreed to by the app user via whatever store they download it from and that data collection, but also with their own set of agreed upon collection. The mobile data phone is an amazingly horrific antiprivacy device.

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Yep. I find myself self-censoring in my house because of them.

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That reminds me of another question I had. What is a good alternative to the smartphone? Are there still flip phones available without location capabilities and no internet? I really don't need a super computer in the hills cutting down trees. Everything I've found so far has most of the bells n whistles.

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There's the really cheapo flip phones by companies like alcatel but they still have location settings and oh, your daily koran app and prayers.

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Full and complete access to your dick pics

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