as long as women are in their twenties, men of almost any age group would be better off getting one of those newer models. If the goal is to have kids and raise a family the younger the better as long as they're in their 20s (obviously, not a girl, women only). Going for young, beauty and purity will give their future children the best possible mom. Children can tell when their mom is old/ugly/low energy (not that all those traits are a cause and effect but they often go hand in hand.) I gotta say, I always thought I was kinda pretty, but it really put things into perspective when me and my little one walked by an add with a gorgeous supermodel. I normally go into a routine where i tell him to ignore adds but he was obviously taken away by her beauty and he stopped. He pointed and said "CUTE!" I said "Oh, she is really pretty, you have a good eye for ladies." I tried to keep going but he didnt want to go He said "Mommy cute?" "Um, I'm not sure if she's a mommy, but she is very cute." "Mommy...NO! MOMMY cute!" He kept pointing at me and the women, as if comparing. "You think I'm cute like she's cute?" he nodded glad I finally got what he was saying. "Mommy cute :)" then we moved on. I'm certainly not a supermodel, I also never wear makeup, yet even at a young age men learn to appreciate female beauty. Young and beautiful go hand in hand, it's entirely natural for men of any age to be attracted to beauty. --- TLDR: >Or were you just chasing the superficial like an R-selected normie? In my opinion, men of every type are attracted to beauty. It's natural eugenics. If you want to keep honing the human race, always pick the best female. Normies do it, but its not a quality that is unique to normies. Maybe I'm assuming too much based off of what you said but I wanted to say my piece about the subject.