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thats a dangerous game to be playing.

imo if you're hearing voices and shit that shit aint God. its something pretending to be in order to fuck with you.

God, i think, when God offers a suggestion, it just sort of manifests into you.

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No joke. God wrote a very long book for everyone. He doesn't need two-bit crazy addendums that only skizos can hear.

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There's stuff in the book that is not understood properly, because it's translated and interpreted according to a poor understanding of Hebrew and Jewish culture and history. Actually, later on it's translated according to Greek/Roman culture, Christian religions and translating traditions. One of the central concepts in the Bible is chai le olam. It ends up something like zoea aionios in Greek. It gets translated as eternal life but doesn't really mean that. I would say it's more implying continuous life as opposed to fleeting, temporary life (chai le sha'ah). It's not so much about being immortal as it's about living a life that God will allow to continue rather than one he will put a stop to. I tried to understand the Bible once with everything being about the present life, but some things couldn't make sense. Then I concluded it's more of an integrated present life leading into the afterlife sort of thing. It's not all about the afterlife and collecting your ticket to heaven while sitting around waiting to die.

As previously mentioned, Bible translation is often done according to religions and translating traditions. The KJV mentions something about receiving mansions in the gospel of John. The Greek isn't talking about houses or mansions at all but rooms. In the Father's house there are many rooms. This mansion nonsense was carried over into the NKJV translation even though it should've been blatantly obvious it doesn't say that.

Usage of the word hell in Bibles is mostly just a disaster that totally misleads people. People generally don't have a concept of prejudgement and post judgement afterlife places when that is clearly depicted in the Bible.

1 Cor. 15 talks about natural bodies as opposed to spiritual bodies. This makes people think we're going to end up with ghost bodies. The actual Greek says we're going from soul bodies to spirit bodies. Souls (mind/will/emotions) are actually less tangible than spirits (ghost bodies). It's actually saying that currently the soul is in charge and the new body will have the spirit in charge. Currently, you're supposed to use your soul to turn to the spirit as opposed to the flesh. It's simply trying to say things will automatically be set to spirit in the new bodies.

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Good point about many mansions. It'd be like reading about an office building with "many desks" and interpreting that as "everyone gets a condo".

I fully agree about "hell". Anytime someone says "hell" I ask whether they mean sheol, gehenna, or tartaros and usually get a blank stare. 95% of the time they have Italian political satire in mind.

When the Bible talks about "souls", it's usually Greek for "breath" in the sense of the air a living being is breathing in and out. That throws a lot of people off.

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I don’t know if it was conscious contact with God, but the Holy Spirit for sure. I’ve had things laid out for me about what happened and why they happened that hit me like a punch in the nose. Kind of really cool and scary at the same time.

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What happened?

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I was sitting and thinking about my wife and I and how happy we are. All of a sudden was back in high school in the class where we first met. A voice said to me you were meant to be together and you are together because of me. Then I was back sitting in my chair. I think you need to make yourself open for these kind of things. I’ve been very blessed in my life.

Wow that is awesome :) I'm so happy you have such a close relationship with the Lord!

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I don't think I can honestly say that I have, but I feel like I'm more open to it now than ever before.

I saw a youtube video in the past year about a man named Titus living in Appalachia. He lives a very simple lifestyle similar to the Amish. He talked about how God always wants to give us gifts, but sometimes we block the channels through which we would receive them.

I started asking myself how I might be blocking those channels, and I came up with a few answers. I haven't fixed everything yet, but I'm doing better.

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The people I talk to say that conscious contact with God is possible, and they seem to have achieved it. I will find out whether or not they are telling the truth.

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I did once. Did something wrong, woke up thinking about it from a neutral point of view, went to get out of bed, an unstoppable force pushed me to my knees, head down, couldn’t move, and very loudly I heard in my head ( not my voice) that it was wrong, and exactly what “ it” was. Then it was gone and I could move normally. Changed my ways right then.I’m not really a religious person, but I don’t have a better explanation for what it was. I knew exactly who was telling me this somehow.

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When I suffocated to death and went to the other side I knew that I could choose whether to come back or not.

There was no voice or anything. I just knew that I could stay in that place that felt like being wrapped in euphoria or I could come back to this realm.

So what was that? Was that the edge of the afterlife and God letting me know I had a choice to make?

Or was that just my body shutting down and my nervous system letting me know I still had enough energy to start moving my lungs and regain normal consciousness?

Is there even a difference? Does God act in subtle ways through natural processes that he sets in motion somehow?

Anyway, I have no idea if there is a God or if he has spoken to me, but that time when somehow I just knew that I could stay or come back during a near death experience is the most obvious candidate for that.

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I once had a dream where this happened and I was in hospice in the hospital. Angels came and I signed some papers on agreement on what I would do if I went back.

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I think so. I said to God that He has a lot of explaining to do if I die. In response I got more time.

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It could be God communicates through idea, realization, and coincidence and not voices or language. If God is indeed a creator then his higher intelligence could have evolving methods of contact that are both effective and least evasive.

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When I was 12 I was feeling lonely and depressed at a super mega church. I was a good Christian girl and had spent my whole life in a constant state of prayer like the Bible said but was so confused by the lack of God in the church.

Until that point I never asked God to show me a sign He was there, because my faith was strong enough I didn't need it. But I was so confused by the hundreds of children dancing and singing to the super cool and loud Christian band while feeling a distinct lack of His holy presence so I made a special request. I left the crowd and stood alone to pray.

"Dear Lord father in heaven, I don't know if you're really here with us. I don't sense you at all. Can you give me a sign that you are here with me please? Amen."

I honestly didn't expect anything but at that moment I felt a huge warm hand grab my shoulder and I was filled with the Holy Spirit. I turned around and no one was here, but it still felt like there was a hand on my shoulder. It was overwhelming and I began to cry.

Due to life, propaganda and drama I eventually became an insane feminist and left the faith because I didn't feel Christianity took itself seriously, and the people i loved used it to hurt and manipulate me. But no matter how much I denounced it, I couldn't forget what it was like to be filled with the Holy Spirit. After the red pill I eventually returned to the faith, regretting ever having left. Now I'm doubling down on the whole Christian thing. Maybe y'all hate me for it but I know the Lord is just happy to have me back, and I'm happy to be here :)

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I was 18 and had spent a few years as an evil atheist. I was in a small Pentecostal church someone I met invited me too. I guess I was just really curious and looking around. The church was mostly old people and their children (mostly younger than me). I was really messed up back then, still kind of an awkward teenager. I had really bad social anxiety and was always nervous in public (God actually delivered me from that years later but that's another story). Anyway, I was standing while hymns were being sung, and someone came up behind me and put a hand on my shoulder. I assumed someone decided to pray for me and just let it be even though I was constantly nervous and uncomfortable being touched. Then I turned to look to see who it was, and there was nobody anywhere near me.

That was that. It was another day when I received the Spirit of God, and the experience was so intense. Atheism was no longer going to be an option at that point.

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You can say your prayers to God and God will listen (also, be sure to thank God for all that he has done, it's good to give him praise). But I don't think God speaks back to you, often sends angels to give you his message.

I have had a message to me, this is not "don't listen to the voices" crap. These were things that I knew were right, "do this" "don't do this" It felt like "nudges" in the correct path, but much more "if you don't, you are going to regret that later" It did not feel like "my concious coming forth" but my concious stepping right in front of me.

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It depends on what you think God it.

To me, the notion that you could ever not be in direct contact with God is preposterous.

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It seems I get help from angels quite often. For example, today I was looking for something and exhausted all the possibilities I could think of, so I did something completely unrelated. Picking up an item, I found the one I had been looking for underneath. A helpful heads up?

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Yes, He told me you are a faggot, but I told him you were ok

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