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Like as an open question can you guys tell me about the Holodomor and USS Liberty as your perspective.

Some guys speak about the Holodomor being a Ukrainian Famine - my understanding was it was more to do with the Gulags.

And some other dude was trying to argue that in the USS Liberty, the US was on uncertain terms with Israel already and that's why Israel attacked the US ship but the reason the US didn't respond was because the US wanted to stay in the good graces of the UK and France where it wouldn't if it responded to the attacks from Israel (this being before the US was considered a "Super power")

Like as an open question can you guys tell me about the Holodomor and USS Liberty as your perspective. Some guys speak about the Holodomor being a Ukrainian Famine - my understanding was it was more to do with the Gulags. And some other dude was trying to argue that in the USS Liberty, the US was on uncertain terms with Israel already and that's why Israel attacked the US ship but the reason the US didn't respond was because the US wanted to stay in the good graces of the UK and France where it wouldn't if it responded to the attacks from Israel (this being before the US was considered a "Super power")

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A great shift from what to what?

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I'm not sure subtle topics like you say "the kikes did x which means y kicked them out" and then someone comes back as says "No 'z' happened because of 'a'".

I have no doubt I maybe misunderstood or misread somethings but it seems a lot has changed...

Like with the holodomor my understanding was like 130 million died. My understanding was they were Russians however I'm being told they were Ukranians. It could be that they were referenced as "Soviets" and my tard-brain made the connection that they were just Russians.

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16-20 million Ukrainians. 130 million seems a bit much, it's several times the current total population of Ukraine.

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Maybe the 130 million I'm thinking died were actually in the gulags...

Don't know why 130 million is floating about in my brain for a death toll of some communist agenda. Maybe I'm just going mad.