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Yeah pretty simple, what's your take on the whole organic food thing? Its a real oddity to me as so many leftists are pro "organic" and sustainably, yet it is so contrary to many of their other beliefs. Also living in an are that is very conservative, I don't see many local farmers following organic practices. Don't even get me started on the amount of GMO corn they buy to entice the deer to hang out near their tree stands.

Yeah pretty simple, what's your take on the whole organic food thing? Its a real oddity to me as so many leftists are pro "organic" and sustainably, yet it is so contrary to many of their other beliefs. Also living in an are that is very conservative, I don't see many local farmers following organic practices. Don't even get me started on the amount of GMO corn they buy to entice the deer to hang out near their tree stands.

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I really don't either, but the only other alternatives are to grow /raise all your own food including the feed required to raise you meat source. Then the butchering. As a first generation farmer, how would one even undertake such a momentous task?
The other alternative is to just eat whatever and hope for the best and this is just plain ignorance.

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how would one undertake such a task?

You don't. You're setting your goal way too high and would be doomed. Respectfully, your sights lower. Don't try to grow all your own food- how about just making yourself self sufficient with one high value product, like eggs? Just that one goal is big enough for many folks, at least for a while. Then once you get proficient in egg production you can learn how to process chickens for meat, since you already have chickens around. Or for gardening, grow a small garden but not with the goal to replace your trips to the grocery. Rather, learn how to preserve what you grow. Canning, dehydrating and freeze drying are all skills to learn. Grow specific produce to try different preserving methods. Only once you have those kinds of skills in place are you ready to start growing big gardens and thinking about true self sufficiency.

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Solid advice, I've been raising some chickens for almost a year now, still getting the hang of it, also attempting to clear a wooded lot with a chainsaw and a brush cutter is a lot of work, didn't really want to pay for someone to come in with heavy equipment to remove all the trees and destroy the very little topsoil we have. Its way more than I expected.

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Once you get chickens down, rabbits are the most efficient way to produce red meat. Highest amount of protein per dollar spent in feed. I'd look there too.

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Clearing land is a shit ton of work. I had a taste of it on a 5 acre unimproved lot which wife and I owned outside of New Cuyama, CA. I attacked it with a chainsaw for about a week or two with pitifully scant results.

Neighbor rancher with 10,000 acres and cattle swings by, takes pity and tells me he rented a Cat D8 bulldozer for some work on his land, and he could let us hire the worker and machine for an hour if we wanted. We did, and in that hour the guy did more work than I could ever do. He dropped the blade and pushed, and nothing would stop that beast. That experience completely changed my understanding of what heavy machinery is capable of doing. Cleared the whole lot minus some more mature trees in 45 minutes. Allowed us to then focus on getting actual stuff done. That is key. The amount of work it saved us in those 45 minutes was incredible.

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Yep, i just focus on avoiding all overly processed/ packet/ convenience foods esp all the additives/ preservatives/ food colors / artifical flavors etc, all goyslop, all soda and never add refined sugar to anything (except 1 teaspoon in my only coffee of the day - a triple shot expresso with full cream) . i mostly purchase from a small free range/ grass fed butchery - free range eggs (natures protein bombs). Of course it is not 100% foolproof, however i'd like to think it eliminated probably 80-90% of the crap in my food and my physical/ mental health has improved massively since i began circa the beginning of the holo-cov .

The extra cost associated with 'free range/ organic' is personally off set by noticing i dont feel hungry between meals and dont need to spend money on constant gorging of cheap snack foods all day long. Nutrient dense foods win over HCFS/ seed oil/ sugar drenched goyslop all day long.

EDIT: One also has to do their own research into what different organic products on offer actually means.

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Agreed. I go to local farms and buy from them. I won't buy meat from a grocery store where you don't know where the meat is from.