I assume there's no above ground water supply like a lake or river. In Hawaii, they use rain water collection, it's simple and works pretty well. If you don't get enough rain, you'll need a well. What I would do is depending on the depth of well, is put a DC pump in the well that can deliver just a few gallons per minute. Then power the pump using a direct solar panel (if possible). The idea is the pump would only run when there's sun. It would then pump the water up to a standing holding tank. You wouldn't require a battery or MPPT because the water tank is your battery. It's very simple, but will work for it's intended purpose.
I assume there's no above ground water supply like a lake or river. In Hawaii, they use rain water collection, it's simple and works pretty well. If you don't get enough rain, you'll need a well. What I would do is depending on the depth of well, is put a DC pump in the well that can deliver just a few gallons per minute. Then power the pump using a direct solar panel (if possible). The idea is the pump would only run when there's sun. It would then pump the water up to a standing holding tank. You wouldn't require a battery or MPPT because the water tank is your battery. It's very simple, but will work for it's intended purpose.
There are well records that can be reviewed to see the depth of wells in the areas of interest. That does not guarantee anything of course but you may be able to call a well drilling company in that area to get an idea. For electric it all depends on your expectations. If you want to power a radio and a lamp, solar + a battery can do it. If you want to power a home, it gets a little more involved. Most homesteaders and farmers I know have generators, and a few have some panels too. I just spent a chunk of dough on part of a system from signaturesolar. I got 2 48V batteries, 1 battery rack, and 1 3000 watt inverter / charge controller.
There are well records that can be reviewed to see the depth of wells in the areas of interest. That does not guarantee anything of course but you may be able to call a well drilling company in that area to get an idea. For electric it all depends on your expectations. If you want to power a radio and a lamp, solar + a battery can do it. If you want to power a home, it gets a little more involved. Most homesteaders and farmers I know have generators, and a few have some panels too. I just spent a chunk of dough on part of a system from signaturesolar. I got 2 48V batteries, 1 battery rack, and 1 3000 watt inverter / charge controller.
Digyourownwell dot com
Lots of good info.
Digyourownwell dot com
Lots of good info.
What state. Water may be easier or harder depending where you are. Also, old school wind mill water pumps are still on use in many Midwest farms and ranches.
As far as electric, again, depending where you are, solar will be your best bet. If your in a place like the Pacific north west where it rains 300 days a year, diesel backup is almost a must. I've seen homesteaders in Alaska that use solar panels fitted on a storage container for their power. It's not like on demand electric in a city, and you need to plan your usesge but it's normally enough to keep devices charged and keep led strips active.
What state. Water may be easier or harder depending where you are. Also, old school wind mill water pumps are still on use in many Midwest farms and ranches.
As far as electric, again, depending where you are, solar will be your best bet. If your in a place like the Pacific north west where it rains 300 days a year, diesel backup is almost a must. I've seen homesteaders in Alaska that use solar panels fitted on a storage container for their power. It's not like on demand electric in a city, and you need to plan your usesge but it's normally enough to keep devices charged and keep led strips active.
I know its wishful thinking but I would like to start one in CA. But I'm open minded and wouldnt mind considering other states or anywhere with the most optimal conditions to start a homestead at. I would proffer no snow and high temps under 100*. Oh yeah! the science behind those windmill powered water pumps havnt changed, I bet there are kits or online instruction manuals on how to make one nowadays one can get.
I know its wishful thinking but I would like to start one in CA. But I'm open minded and wouldnt mind considering other states or anywhere with the most optimal conditions to start a homestead at. I would proffer no snow and high temps under 100*. Oh yeah! the science behind those windmill powered water pumps havnt changed, I bet there are kits or online instruction manuals on how to make one nowadays one can get.
CA...ooooohhhboy...ok well your biggest issue isn't tech, it's ordinances and permits to build the fucking things. Truth be told you'd be better in Nevada or Arizona if that is what you wanted.
Hell, electric generation in that state is so heavily regulated now, I'm not even sure you can HAVE panels off grid. You'll need to do homework to see what Comiefornia allows and considera legal. I know when I left, rain water collection was made illegal, so that avenue is out.
CA...ooooohhhboy...ok well your biggest issue isn't tech, it's ordinances and permits to build the fucking things. Truth be told you'd be better in Nevada or Arizona if that is what you wanted.
Hell, electric generation in that state is so heavily regulated now, I'm not even sure you can HAVE panels off grid. You'll need to do homework to see what Comiefornia allows and considera legal. I know when I left, rain water collection was made illegal, so that avenue is out.
Damn, thought as much though. I came back to my homestate to try and save it then shit hit the fan and now it's starting to feel illegal to even exist in the state unless youre pumping good money into their tax farm. fucking bullshit
Damn, thought as much though. I came back to my homestate to try and save it then shit hit the fan and now it's starting to feel illegal to even exist in the state unless youre pumping good money into their tax farm. fucking bullshit
in CA
Lol, aaaaannnd you're not serious. Thanks for playing. Enjoy your enslavement. You can't even catch your own rain water.
Why do you people in the north and blue states insist on punching yourselves in the balls, metaphorically speaking.
Move somewhere that actually gives a shit about you for fucks sake. Everything else is easier.
>in CA
Lol, aaaaannnd you're not serious. Thanks for playing. Enjoy your enslavement. You can't even catch your own rain water.
Why do you people in the north and blue states insist on punching yourselves in the balls, metaphorically speaking.
Move somewhere that actually gives a shit about you for fucks sake. Everything else is easier.
Well, whenever you guys decide to chop off the limb that is CA because you don't want to waste your life fighting for it, you will doom the USA. CA is one of the most important geographical locations in the USA. lose CA entirely and the enemy won't hesitate to choke out the rest of the USA. Not including the ca population, Innocent people will die and ultimately become slaves as well because of people who are willing to let the deep state control and manipulate CA and ultimately the way it's viewed. The USA is under attack, and letting CA go because you fell for the propaganda will leave the USA critically vulnerable. Purge the evil, purge the immigrants, cleanse the schools, reclaim CA, don't lose a state as big as some countries with unlimited potential and don't laugh it off because no matter where you are in the USA, this will effect you. CA is a high priority target for sabotage. No matter who was in control of CA originally, it was doomed to be the target of an enemy.
Remove degeneracy, greatly reduce the population here, go full Turner Diaries on this bitch, and the white people would chill and begin the healing process.
If you're not a US citizen, I could really care less of what you have to say in response.
Well, whenever you guys decide to chop off the limb that is CA because you don't want to waste your life fighting for it, you will doom the USA. CA is one of the most important geographical locations in the USA. lose CA entirely and the enemy won't hesitate to choke out the rest of the USA. Not including the ca population, Innocent people will die and ultimately become slaves as well because of people who are willing to let the deep state control and manipulate CA and ultimately the way it's viewed. The USA is under attack, and letting CA go because you fell for the propaganda will leave the USA critically vulnerable. Purge the evil, purge the immigrants, cleanse the schools, reclaim CA, don't lose a state as big as some countries with unlimited potential and don't laugh it off because no matter where you are in the USA, this will effect you.
CA is a high priority target for sabotage. No matter who was in control of CA originally, it was doomed to be the target of an enemy.
Remove degeneracy, greatly reduce the population here, go full Turner Diaries on this bitch, and the white people would chill and begin the healing process.
If you're not a US citizen, I could really care less of what you have to say in response.
It is doable in commiefornia. If you are in the northern part, Mendocino county or higher, the regulations are light. If you plan and do some research, you can find properties with springs on them. Solar works well for smaller homes. If you are in the bay area rules and fees will kill any project. farther south I am unfamiliar with. Good luck.
It is doable in commiefornia. If you are in the northern part, Mendocino county or higher, the regulations are light. If you plan and do some research, you can find properties with springs on them. Solar works well for smaller homes. If you are in the bay area rules and fees will kill any project. farther south I am unfamiliar with. Good luck.
Thank you and thanks for the tips :) I have seen some pretty properties for sale up north, some with beautiful surface water, springs or rivers
Thank you and thanks for the tips :) I have seen some pretty properties for sale up north, some with beautiful surface water, springs or rivers
I don't know much on the topic, but I know these things exist: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kIKkSeltuGY&pp=ygUUSGFuZCBXYXRlciBwdW1wIHdlbGw%3D
I don't know much on the topic, but I know these things exist: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kIKkSeltuGY&pp=ygUUSGFuZCBXYXRlciBwdW1wIHdlbGw%3D
Hell yeah this is badass if you have water pretty close to the surface, very clutch
Hell yeah this is badass if you have water pretty close to the surface, very clutch
This is partly why I chose our off grid homestead property outside of the US, we can do whatever we want, water is on our land and clean. Honestly. The laws continue to suck for those who wish to be self sufficient, the next ugly is septic permitting and installation. Water and septic could be low end 20k to high end $80k… I have $300 total investment for both and they work great.
This is partly why I chose our off grid homestead property outside of the US, we can do whatever we want, water is on our land and clean. Honestly. The laws continue to suck for those who wish to be self sufficient, the next ugly is septic permitting and installation. Water and septic could be low end 20k to high end $80k… I have $300 total investment for both and they work great.
That's awesome! I can't believe they how much basic necessities cost here. It's as if "'someone"' doesnt want us to be self sufficient
That's awesome! I can't believe they how much basic necessities cost here. It's as if "'someone"' doesnt want us to be self sufficient
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ummmmmmmm drill a hole until you hit the water table? would depend how deep / plentiful your local water table is.
solar might be viable, again, depending on how much sun you get.
check out the book "Back to Basics" ISBN# 0895770865. someone was asking something similar a while ago.
ummmmmmmm drill a hole until you hit the water table? would depend how deep / plentiful your local water table is.
solar might be viable, again, depending on how much sun you get.
check out the book "Back to Basics" ISBN# 0895770865. someone was asking something similar a while ago.
Check as see where the nearest landfill is. My elderly uncle moved to a little community, all nice and mostly White- tap well water is undrinkable and there's a dormant landfill a mile away.
Check as see where the nearest landfill is. My elderly uncle moved to a little community, all nice and mostly White- tap well water is undrinkable and there's a dormant landfill a mile away.
Rainwater collection is the least effort and cost IME.
Rainwater collection is the least effort and cost IME.
Fair enough. Not sure I'd let my government tell me collecting rainwater is illegal since it's very nearly a human right to collect rain water.
Fair enough. Not sure I'd let my government tell me collecting rainwater is illegal since it's very nearly a human right to collect rain water.
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