A city is like a circuit, and diversity is like pouring water on it.
A city is like a circuit, and diversity is like pouring water on it.
Salt water.
Salt water.
No, I don't think so. Problem is they get taken over by leftoids who "know better" and ruin everything.
No, I don't think so.
Problem is they get taken over by leftoids who "know better" and ruin everything.
Isn't the draw the ability to hide the graft and fraud by attracting like minded people who in turn participate in the graft and fraud? Masking it all under the weight of the massive administration burden and revenue?
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Isn't the draw the ability to hide the graft and fraud by attracting like minded people who in turn participate in the graft and fraud? Masking it all under the weight of the massive administration burden and revenue?
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Failure depends on your point of view. They offer some advantages such as concentrating resources like markets. However, cities require a lot of resources to exist. For instance, many roads, power, water, sewer, communications infrastructure, buildings and so on. They consume a lot of resources, but give little, if anything back.
Cities also attract low IQ niggers because they tend to like living in high density areas where they group together in broods. Cities also attract compromised politicians to suck off the taxpayers. The problems really start when cities get large: millions of people. The criminals can easily hide and then crime becomes more and more of a problem. Counter acting that requires ever more resources and money.
Failure depends on your point of view. They offer some advantages such as concentrating resources like markets. However, cities require a lot of resources to exist. For instance, many roads, power, water, sewer, communications infrastructure, buildings and so on. They consume a lot of resources, but give little, if anything back.
Cities also attract low IQ niggers because they tend to like living in high density areas where they group together in broods. Cities also attract compromised politicians to suck off the taxpayers. The problems really start when cities get large: millions of people. The criminals can easily hide and then crime becomes more and more of a problem. Counter acting that requires ever more resources and money.
After I asked, I wondered if placing max population caps on cities would be universally beneficial. Rather than large cities annexing smaller land, it would work in reverse. As a large city hit its population max, it would force the smaller surrounding cities to annex away from the larger cities until they were under their max, with a margin (say 20%). This would continue until those surrounding cities maxed, and ripple outward. Repeating until all were under max. This would limit city revenues and graft and fraud, in turn removing power centralization from massive cities. It would encourage expansion rather than centralization. In turn minimizing the power and graft of massive, centralized cities.
What you think about that?
After I asked, I wondered if placing max population caps on cities would be universally beneficial. Rather than large cities annexing smaller land, it would work in reverse. As a large city hit its population max, it would force the smaller surrounding cities to annex away from the larger cities until they were under their max, with a margin (say 20%). This would continue until those surrounding cities maxed, and ripple outward. Repeating until all were under max. This would limit city revenues and graft and fraud, in turn removing power centralization from massive cities. It would encourage expansion rather than centralization. In turn minimizing the power and graft of massive, centralized cities.
What you think about that?
Who would place the cap? How would it be determined? How would it be enforced?
As mentioned, cities tend to be eventually filled with niggers and other societal drains. Would we export a proportion of them into the smaller cities as the larger ones filled?
What's happening now (in cities and states) is that the smart, productive people are moving to places where they can live with like-minded folk. That leaves behind the lazy and the grifters (and a smattering of people who are stuck there for one valid reason or another) to live in the mess they've made. At least here in the US of A, anyway.
Yes, some leftists leave their shit holes behind to ruin a new locale (sorry, Colorado) and the system isn't perfect, but I'd rather people self-select than be shuttled around where some government entity decides they should be.
Who would place the cap? How would it be determined? How would it be enforced?
As @vastrightwing mentioned, cities tend to be eventually filled with niggers and other societal drains. Would we export a proportion of them into the smaller cities as the larger ones filled?
What's happening now (in cities and states) is that the smart, productive people are moving to places where they can live with like-minded folk. That leaves behind the lazy and the grifters (and a smattering of people who are stuck there for one valid reason or another) to live in the mess they've made. At least here in the US of A, anyway.
Yes, some leftists leave their shit holes behind to ruin a new locale (sorry, Colorado) and the system isn't perfect, but I'd rather people self-select than be shuttled around where some government entity decides they should be.
Who would place the cap? How would it be determined? How would it be enforced?
Would have to be legislative, a legal mandate.
We have studies on fraud and management at scales proving diminishing returns. I would anticipate these would be the basis for caps. What's the down side to capping all cities at 500,000 people? 1,000,000?
As mentioned, cities tend to be eventually filled with niggers and other societal drains. Would we export a proportion of them into the smaller cities as the larger ones filled?
IMOHO, this would prevent such congregation or perhaps even facilities segregation of non-Whites into their own cities. Right now they all flock to centralized large cities to feast upon the corruption and preferential treatment. Treatment which exists specifically because they congregate and garner preferential treatment because of their centralized population sizes.
What's happening now (in cities and states) is that the smart, productive people are moving to places where they can live with like-minded folk. That leaves behind the lazy and the grifters (and a smattering of people who are stuck there for one valid reason or another) to live in the mess they've made. At least here in the US of A, anyway.
This has all changed because of Obama. Now, they are already forcing non-Whites into every White area and the government is subsidizing it. If you're not already seeing it, you will.
Yes, some leftists leave their shit holes behind to ruin a new locale (sorry, Colorado) and the system isn't perfect, but I'd rather people self-select than be shuttled around where some government entity decides they should be.
Which triggers White flight. At worst, the number of people they can destroy is much smaller and it makes it much harder for their to hide their graft, fraud and preferential treatment to non-Whites.
I'm still not seeing a down side.
> Who would place the cap? How would it be determined? How would it be enforced?
Would have to be legislative, a legal mandate.
We have studies on fraud and management at scales proving diminishing returns. I would anticipate these would be the basis for caps. What's the down side to capping all cities at 500,000 people? 1,000,000?
> As @vastrightwing mentioned, cities tend to be eventually filled with niggers and other societal drains. Would we export a proportion of them into the smaller cities as the larger ones filled?
IMOHO, this would prevent such congregation or perhaps even facilities segregation of non-Whites into their own cities. Right now they all flock to centralized large cities to feast upon the corruption and preferential treatment. Treatment which exists specifically because they congregate and garner preferential treatment because of their centralized population sizes.
> What's happening now (in cities and states) is that the smart, productive people are moving to places where they can live with like-minded folk. That leaves behind the lazy and the grifters (and a smattering of people who are stuck there for one valid reason or another) to live in the mess they've made. At least here in the US of A, anyway.
This has all changed because of Obama. Now, they are already forcing non-Whites into every White area and the government is subsidizing it. If you're not already seeing it, you will.
> Yes, some leftists leave their shit holes behind to ruin a new locale (sorry, Colorado) and the system isn't perfect, but I'd rather people self-select than be shuttled around where some government entity decides they should be.
Which triggers White flight. At worst, the number of people they can destroy is much smaller and it makes it much harder for their to hide their graft, fraud and preferential treatment to non-Whites.
I'm still not seeing a down side.
The solution isn't a cap as much as keeping bad actors like shit skins and jew politicians that enable destruction out.
The solution isn't a cap as much as keeping bad actors like shit skins and jew politicians that enable destruction out.
Ultimately it still encourages centralized power. For example, New York. Even without totalitarian Jewish control, it disproportionately controls the politics of the entire state. IMOHO, these megacities are a blight upon ever state in which they exist.
Ultimately it still encourages centralized power. For example, New York. Even without totalitarian Jewish control, it disproportionately controls the politics of the entire state. IMOHO, these megacities are a blight upon ever state in which they exist.
Large cities are not a failed concept. Diversity is a failed concept That's why our cities have become esspits
Large cities are not a failed concept.
Diversity is a failed concept
That's why our cities have become esspits
Poor White people exist too.
If you look at election maps, all the states are red. There are only blue cities. The states which are blue are actually blue because of megacities.
Poor White people exist too.
If you look at election maps, all the states are red. There are only blue cities. The states which are blue are actually blue because of megacities.
Tokyo seems to work pretty well. I can't think of any other 'large' cities that do, however.
Tokyo seems to work pretty well. I can't think of any other 'large' cities that do, however.
They require a homogenous society to function? To what do you attribute it?
They require a homogenous society to function? To what do you attribute it?
They require a homogenous society to function? To what do you attribute it?
Most definitely a homogeneous society. Without something to bind the people together there's no chance a city (or a country) will survive. On top of that, the larger the city is the more important. Outsiders in a small town can be ostracized if they don't fit in. In cities they clump together and create mini-societies within the larger one. I can remember when Dearborn, MI didn't have any islamists. Now they're running their section of the city and will soon take the whole thing over.
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They require a homogenous society to function? To what do you attribute it?
Most definitely a homogeneous society. Without something to bind the people together there's no chance a city (or a country) will survive.
On top of that, the larger the city is the more important. Outsiders in a small town can be ostracized if they don't fit in. In cities they clump together and create mini-societies within the larger one. I can remember when Dearborn, MI didn't have any islamists. Now they're running their section of the city and will soon take the whole thing over.
What do you think about this?
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What do you think about this?
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I've spent over a month in Japan for leisure. Basically, it's homogeneous and society will bully you if you step out of line. The legal system is also extreme with an extremely high conviction rate. They have too much pride to bring someone to trial and fail. And if you piss off the police they will give you 5 different charges and hold you on each one individually over time. Like, if you get 5 charges and each one lets you be held for a max of 30 days, they will hold you on the first charge for 30 days, then bring another one and hold you for 30 days, etc. Basically, getting in trouble with the police in Japan means you could be held for a year on a bunch of stupid little charges.
I never had legal problems or anything out there but you know not to fuck around out there.
They aren't afraid of being racist. If someone is acting out on a train, there's a good chance they'll be spit on. I speak enough Japanese to get off the beaten path of tourism and I was chased out of a few places just for being White. They also would treat me like shit until I could speak Japanese to them and show them some respect and then they'd be super cool. But if you stayed around long enough they'd think you moved in and not be so nice to you.
They also generally really shy. Awkwardly shy. I went into a ramen bar and the guy was super shy and timid and we talked about anime and video games, lol. You have to imagine most of the country is like going to a nerd convention, very shy, quiet, etc. Not outgoing, even like White people, let alone niggers. It's not polite to even make eye contact in Japan, but the guy couldn't even keep looking at me when we talked. He eventually opened up but it was a super weird but cool experience.
I stumbled on a gay pride parade there on accident and it was almost all a bunch of people in polos and somewhat well dressed just walking holding up lefty propaganda signs. Pretty wild shit honestly.
They are really proud of their shit. I went to a small sushi shop and told the guy he made great sushi, way better than anything in America, and he just said "I know"
I've spent over a month in Japan for leisure. Basically, it's homogeneous and society will bully you if you step out of line. The legal system is also extreme with an extremely high conviction rate. They have too much pride to bring someone to trial and fail. And if you piss off the police they will give you 5 different charges and hold you on each one individually over time. Like, if you get 5 charges and each one lets you be held for a max of 30 days, they will hold you on the first charge for 30 days, then bring another one and hold you for 30 days, etc. Basically, getting in trouble with the police in Japan means you could be held for a year on a bunch of stupid little charges.
I never had legal problems or anything out there but you know not to fuck around out there.
They aren't afraid of being racist. If someone is acting out on a train, there's a good chance they'll be spit on. I speak enough Japanese to get off the beaten path of tourism and I was chased out of a few places just for being White. They also would treat me like shit until I could speak Japanese to them and show them some respect and then they'd be super cool. But if you stayed around long enough they'd think you moved in and not be so nice to you.
They also generally really shy. Awkwardly shy. I went into a ramen bar and the guy was super shy and timid and we talked about anime and video games, lol. You have to imagine most of the country is like going to a nerd convention, very shy, quiet, etc. Not outgoing, even like White people, let alone niggers. It's not polite to even make eye contact in Japan, but the guy couldn't even keep looking at me when we talked. He eventually opened up but it was a super weird but cool experience.
I stumbled on a gay pride parade there on accident and it was almost all a bunch of people in polos and somewhat well dressed just walking holding up lefty propaganda signs. Pretty wild shit honestly.
They are really proud of their shit. I went to a small sushi shop and told the guy he made great sushi, way better than anything in America, and he just said "I know"
Tokyo is a city with a homogenous population. Cities would work if there were districts. Harlam always worked because it encompassed al the darkies, rich and poor. San Francisco in the 70s was great because people had home districts. When you left, depending, you paid attention, so less FAFO.
Tokyo is a city with a homogenous population. Cities would work if there were districts. Harlam always worked because it encompassed al the darkies, rich and poor.
San Francisco in the 70s was great because people had home districts. When you left, depending, you paid attention, so less FAFO.
when run by communists, yes.
when run by communists, yes.
I think we have a lot of data but not enough experimentation, the data so far indicates mega cities are efficient economically but only until the social conditions within degrade the whole society.
I think a size constraint might be a good simple solution, but I think more technical solutions are worth trying so that we can massage and finesse the problem.
I think the core of the issue is economic pressures induced largely by megacities and the moral decline we see associated with population density growing over time that is correlated to birthrate decline.
My solution is to try and engineer village and rural lifestyles back into society.
The simple practical portions are cut waste people that can be cut easily to reduce housing demand and cost, namely illegals and non productive non citizens, migrants need to earn twice the median income to get citizenship if this globalist idiocy is even going to halfway work(it's obviously about white genocide but my suggestion mitigates that intent and is palatable to normies and leftards) so reduce housing pressure and build new housing in the pavement wastelands we call shopping centers convert these shopping centers into dense mixed use housing and business developments designed to be walkable and comfortable facsimiles of european villages with parking decks at the corners, local businesses keep 70% of every dollar spent within the local community as opposed to 30% at big box retailers, wealth preservation is important in mitigating losses to reduced efficiency. These comfy villages locked into cities if kept ad upper middle class housing will make sure to produce offspring that are moral as opposed to the scant but uneducated barbarians predominantly produced in big cities today, my suggestion is that whites dress up like vikings and raid bigbox stores in their area during riot season and then put on their best duds and talk the city council into making villages out of the abandoned lots.
I have a concept for a new model city but it's really just a compression of lifestyles for the efficiency of propping up wealth and morality engine in a rural to sub-rural population, essentially a circular town that has a staggering reduction in population density every block away from the central block. The goal is to have a town with ~35k pop and a single skyscraper that mostly relies on 1-8 acre plots in the outer rings to be self sufficient and produce moral children to take over the homes and farms and fill the denser zone and spill out into the old cities as a way to spread/maintain morality. There is also an education reform concept I have which pairs with this. But the gist is womens work is in the home and with new technology that means women need home business skills along with home maker skills and men and women both need agricultural skills and modern technology skills.
I think we have a lot of data but not enough experimentation, the data so far indicates mega cities are efficient economically but only until the social conditions within degrade the whole society.
I think a size constraint might be a good simple solution, but I think more technical solutions are worth trying so that we can massage and finesse the problem.
I think the core of the issue is economic pressures induced largely by megacities and the moral decline we see associated with population density growing over time that is correlated to birthrate decline.
My solution is to try and engineer village and rural lifestyles back into society.
The simple practical portions are cut waste people that can be cut easily to reduce housing demand and cost, namely illegals and non productive non citizens, migrants need to earn twice the median income to get citizenship if this globalist idiocy is even going to halfway work(it's obviously about white genocide but my suggestion mitigates that intent and is palatable to normies and leftards) so reduce housing pressure and build new housing in the pavement wastelands we call shopping centers convert these shopping centers into dense mixed use housing and business developments designed to be walkable and comfortable facsimiles of european villages with parking decks at the corners, local businesses keep 70% of every dollar spent within the local community as opposed to 30% at big box retailers, wealth preservation is important in mitigating losses to reduced efficiency. These comfy villages locked into cities if kept ad upper middle class housing will make sure to produce offspring that are moral as opposed to the scant but uneducated barbarians predominantly produced in big cities today, my suggestion is that whites dress up like vikings and raid bigbox stores in their area during riot season and then put on their best duds and talk the city council into making villages out of the abandoned lots.
I have a concept for a new model city but it's really just a compression of lifestyles for the efficiency of propping up wealth and morality engine in a rural to sub-rural population, essentially a circular town that has a staggering reduction in population density every block away from the central block. The goal is to have a town with ~35k pop and a single skyscraper that mostly relies on 1-8 acre plots in the outer rings to be self sufficient and produce moral children to take over the homes and farms and fill the denser zone and spill out into the old cities as a way to spread/maintain morality. There is also an education reform concept I have which pairs with this. But the gist is womens work is in the home and with new technology that means women need home business skills along with home maker skills and men and women both need agricultural skills and modern technology skills.
Interesting concept. I believe we're both chasing the same symptoms but with different views. I personally see megacities as unhealthy. They are basically new creations of the Industrial Revolution. We seem to think of them as solid concepts but at the end of the day, IMOHO, there really hasn't been anything good come from them. Inevitably the only outcomes seem to be ghettos and centralized power.
Like you, I see value in the village approach (smaller bodies more closely connected to the people). Which was the indirect benefit of what I offered with my solution. As mine forces growth outwards instead of White flight and ghettos contained by corruption at the top.
Interesting concept. I believe we're both chasing the same symptoms but with different views. I personally see megacities as unhealthy. They are basically new creations of the Industrial Revolution. We seem to think of them as solid concepts but at the end of the day, IMOHO, there really hasn't been anything good come from them. Inevitably the only outcomes seem to be ghettos and centralized power.
Like you, I see value in the village approach (smaller bodies more closely connected to the people). Which was the indirect benefit of what I offered with my solution. As mine forces growth outwards instead of White flight and ghettos contained by corruption at the top.
Psychopaths thrive in anonymity, that's why they thrive in cities.
Psychopaths thrive in anonymity, that's why they thrive in cities.
Well they're certainly not 'natural', as in they're a modern phenomena. Its more than likely they'll collapse and return to the mean
Well they're certainly not 'natural', as in they're a modern phenomena. Its more than likely they'll collapse and return to the mean
How modern are we talking?
How modern are we talking?
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