When I was a staunch atheist a long time ago, I agreed with your thoughts on it whole heart, but the more I explore into It I no longer agree. Would it be better to be made and forced to worship the way your heart is forced to pump? It seems to me that it is better to be given the option through free will. From the perspective you share, it would have been better to be created as a serving angle before all concepts of freewill, death, suffering, love ever existed.
It's like if you were the only human and you create a robot that served without question, essentially a rumba. The rumba may praise you, it may do everything it is programmed to do, but only because it was programmed too. If you were only surrounded by things you created to do as you programmed, I would think that would be lonely. If you then built a robot that had the choice, and it judged you worthy of praise and caring, that would be love. That seems to me to be the essential defining difference between servitude and love. Looking at humanisticly, you would likely love those robots, you would care for them above all other robots you created, as they have a choice and still chose to care for you. I would argue if you created a robot to serve, gave it the choice to serve, and chose not to, you might scrap it; it doesn't serve your interest to let it continue to be if it actively be against you. Would it be a sort of love for what you created to allow it to continue on, even if it convinced other robots to abandon you?
In that idea, you are a god to these robots. But you are human, and humans desire love and companionship. In Christianity, god created humans in his image, and when they say that they don't mean in looks alone, they mean in spirit. They say that he created us to create love above all. And as a god, would you not want to be loved above all else? Love, in all it's greatness, only exist because we have the choice to love. Lucifer is the first rumba to denounce it's creator, but despite that, it's creator allowed it to continue existing. It allowed it, and all other of it's creation to exists and have it's own choices to make.
A being that exists outside of time and space doesn't, in my opinion, make them evil for allowing their creations to exist knowing their outcome. You ever see the movie Interstellar? The intervention by the 4/5th dimensional beings, allowing the protagonist to travel through time to advise his daughter. What happened always was, and always is, the protagonist always chose to signal his daughter, always saved the race, and always came out the other side. But did the 4/5th dimensional beings always chose to help? I think so, but when did that choice happen? When is inconsequential to those beings. Choices made by something existing outside of time and space is beyond the full comprehension of us.
Hell and damnation as a punishment for not choosing to love is a whole other beast, and I am not sure how I think or feel on the subject. But I do know there are sects that believe there is no hell, only salvation or non existence at the end.
I appreciate your takesbon it; they're similar to my father's when we used to debate the topic, aside from the last part.
Unlike your average atheist, I do respect Christianity and see the positive values that it can instill in a society. I firmly believe that the average normie cannot instinctively discern right from wrong, or establish their own code of ethics without some framework. Christianity did a decent enough job of it- far better than the materialistic/"scientific" idolatry we see today. I'd fight with traditional Christians and day.
I also do not make childish, snide remarks about the existence of gods to people, or try to pick fights about it like a lot of arrogant asses like to do.
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