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I assume most people here are gainfully employed. Many are in a trade or skilled profession that no one could just walk on and start doing without significant training.

And yet...

A lot of you are clearly just low IQ. I know because I talk with you in the comments here on Poal and I read the things you say and poke at the reasoning you use to justify those opinions. The takes are bad and the thought process behind them is even worse in many cases.

But many of the low IQ people here seem to carry themselves as if their opinion is important and carries weight. Do you think it's possible that being useful in the production of some kind of goods and services, being skilled, gives these people an inflated sense of their own mental abilities?

Keep in mind it doesn't necessarily take great intelligence to be a skilled laborer. There is a lot of training, systems, repetition, that helps skilled workers achieve good results. And most people working in skilled fields still need to be managed. Even in cases where the pay is high, the marketability of the skill doesn't necessarily need to correlate with high intellect.

I'm not trying to insult anyone specifically or downplay the need for skilled labor (which we are desperate for and is waning rapidly in western countries).

I'm just wondering if doing skilled work creates an inflated sense of intelligence and if this might not be a big factor in the interaction between industrial society and social media.

What are you thoughts?

tl;dr A lot of you are dumbasses. Do you think having a job makes you feel smarter than you are?
I assume most people here are gainfully employed. Many are in a trade or skilled profession that no one could just walk on and start doing without significant training. And yet... **A lot of you are clearly just low IQ.** I know because I talk with you in the comments here on Poal and I read the things you say and poke at the reasoning you use to justify those opinions. The takes are bad and the thought process behind them is even worse in many cases. But many of the low IQ people here seem to carry themselves as if their opinion is important and carries weight. Do you think it's possible that being useful in the production of some kind of goods and services, being *skilled*, gives these people an inflated sense of their own mental abilities? Keep in mind it doesn't necessarily take great intelligence to be a skilled laborer. There is a lot of training, systems, repetition, that helps skilled workers achieve good results. And most people working in skilled fields still need to be managed. Even in cases where the pay is high, the marketability of the skill doesn't necessarily need to correlate with high intellect. I'm not trying to insult anyone specifically or downplay the need for skilled labor (which we are desperate for and is waning rapidly in western countries). I'm just wondering if doing skilled work creates an inflated sense of intelligence and if this might not be a big factor in the interaction between industrial society and social media. What are you thoughts? #####tl;dr A lot of you are dumbasses. Do you think having a job makes you feel smarter than you are?

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[–] [deleted] • 4 pts (edited )

I've met some construction workers who hold themselves with pride and dignity, but often joke about their own intellect lacking. I've also met construction workers who are insulted by someone elses intellect.

Ex1: "I don't need to be smart to know how to weld."

Ex2: "I can pick this house up off its foundation, put it on dollies and get the permits to move the house through the city at night, but you better stop trying to make me look stupid by using big words. Try to stick to four letters if you want us to take you seriously."

But I dont think your concerns are limited to skilled trades. I know someone's grand folks who worked hard their whole life and earned a modest fortune from knowing how to run a business. These people are classy, highly social, know how to talk to people and win arguments every time. But, they dont have a clue about anything, somehow, at the same time.

A grandkid told them "construction workers are overworked and under paid. We are losing our workforce because no one wants to abuse their bodies for that level of compensation when they could do just about any other job for similar, same, or better pay and hours." Their response "Well, if they don't like living in the USA they can move to a different country." these people are emotionally moved by Hallmark movies, and take cinema far more seriously than the actual lives of their family members, although they do love their family.

Anyways, I know I'm not that bright. I was a woman who fell for feminist propaganda and went into construction for the money and life experience. Pretty fun, awesome, and hardwork. Met alot of cool people, not all the brightest, but it is important to hold yourself with pride and dignity as a working man on a jobsite for a number of reasons. While many have a low IQ, they generally have a similar moral compass. One of the easiest things to conceptualize is that having a job, earning a living, paying for a house and family makes you a good person, and deserves a certain amount of respect. You also get the bonus of self respect, the ability to look at yourself and not be disgusted by what you see. You don't need a high IQ for self respect, but people of low enough IQ will not fully understand this and take it too far, not accounting for what they dont know. Those guys can grow up to be pretentious bastards with more judgments and opinions than sense.

(edited paragraph) One of the smartest men i knew was going to lose alot more than he bargained for because he wouldnt get a job for a while.

Not all construction workers I've met claimed to be particularly intelligent, but would hold themselves up with pride and self worth because they could take care of their friends and family. Self worth is sometimes confused as intelligence by low IQ individuals which leads to them opening their mouths and having opinions. Some people have high IQ's and are not a productive member of society.

I would rather hang out and talk to a low IQ individual with a job and self worth than I would a blackpilled person with a high IQ with no job and future.

(edit to add:) I have also met plenty of very intelligent, high IQ, high functioning men who work in construction, sometimes even in low IQ jobs. Construction is a bag of mixed nuts.

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Yeah I agree that IQ isn't the be all and end all. And you're right about the level of variance. Especially in manual labor fields, because some people just like to move.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

true, i saw my future as a cute secretary sitting at a desk getting fat and lazy and i shuddered at thinking i would have to sit still, be polite and keep a fresh wardrobe. That weird view I had of the future as a kid drove me to want something other than sitting at a desk all day.