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I understand you want to weed out accounts, but this is BS and your hoops will reduce users and create even more of an echo chamber than has already happened.

I'm an old Voat refuge who hasn't been very active. I don't have alot to share, but chime in occasionally and I'm not the Reddit type of moron who wants to voice my opinion just to hear it. These new hoops to jump through are F'ing stupid.

I can't comment without making an introduction. I do so (https://poal.co/s/Introductions/662116) and label it nsfw because of language. Then I still can't comment to tell someone what to kill their sumac weeds with because I haven't actively participated in my introductory discussion that I can't even see becuse it's nsfw.

If the 30 top users want their personal site then just get rid of our logins.

Edit: The question. Why?

I understand you want to weed out accounts, but this is BS and your hoops will reduce users and create even more of an echo chamber than has already happened. I'm an old Voat refuge who hasn't been very active. I don't have alot to share, but chime in occasionally and I'm not the Reddit type of moron who wants to voice my opinion just to hear it. These new hoops to jump through are F'ing stupid. I can't comment without making an introduction. I do so (https://poal.co/s/Introductions/662116) and label it nsfw because of language. Then I still can't comment to tell someone what to kill their sumac weeds with because I haven't actively participated in my introductory discussion that I can't even see becuse it's nsfw. If the 30 top users want their personal site then just get rid of our logins. Edit: The question. Why?

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[–] 7 pts

Wow, so you're through the simple "Introduce yourself" requirement, and all you need to do is participate a bit to get to a point where you have free run of the board, to where you can interact with and see everything the place has to offer.

But instead, you whine and kvetch and piss and moan. Why create an account two years ago and then suddenly come back? Do you expect everything you do to never change when you leave for a year? We move on, have to implement new checks or controls, or we just do things differently than you remember.

Don't bitch when you're gone for a while and the things you remember are gone. If you're not comfortable with that, then you're in the wrong place. Adapt or leave. Perform, or be recycled.

[–] 6 pts

Not all dissent is bitching or kvetching, so come up with a real response.

The NSFW limitation prevents me from getting through the next hoop as previously explained. I didn't suddenly come back. I visit regularly and participate on my terms, not yours.

As a ham, I enjoy your posts more than most others and upvote accordingly. I'm sad to see you take my opinion like this.

These rules arbitrarily create a barrier to nsfw vieiwing and I take issue with that the most. Most speak so as many as possible can hear. I don't understand why this site is choosing to block audience.

Maybe I'm the only dumbass who feels this way, but you're shuttering those who need to hear what is said here.

[–] 5 pts

These rules, the introduction and the NSFW ones, were put into place because when something interesting happens, or is about to happen, old accounts that have participated very little (or not at all) suddenly show up.

The introduction requirement is a simple test to see if the account is a bot. No introduction, no participation. Even if a person participated a little two years ago when they signed up, it takes little effort to get to the bypass level of 6. Some actual participators that simply wandered away and came back because they remembered Poal was here are going to get caught in the net, but letting an account age in the background is a common tactic on other forums. It's a simple test, but it's not a perfect one.

The NSFW thing was said to be because some of these sleeper accounts seem to want to collect this data. The amount of hollering about said NSFW restriction seems to prove the point, because there's nothing really under that tag that's so intriguing that you can't live without it. A lot of NSFW is just shitposting because certain subs enforce the tag.

But with your case, I don't understand the problem. That you're posting somewhere other than introduction seems to indicate you've bypassed the restriction of posting. Have you tried posting other stuff to build up your level? You're almost to 6, which should grant you free run of the board.

[–] 6 pts

I guess it is kind of a bug that an intro post can be flared as NSFW and thus be invisible to the new user that just posted it. I think that is a legitimate complaint that should be fixed.

Unless I'm misinterpreting how the system works.

[–] 2 pts

I do hope to contribute and level up. My only argument about the NSFW content is I really enjoy the 4Chan posts. That is a sub I have followed since I first joined. I hate seeing a new post and not being able to view it.

[–] 1 pt

Requiring lightly used sleeper accounts to re-introduce themselves is an AWESOME idea! Thank you for your proactive and creative solutions!

Please keep the NSFW blocking. Personally I wouldn't be upset if poal were to make the blocking stricter given the upcoming american election cycle.

[–] 0 pt

I commented on your post. You should be able to reply to my comment.

[–] 0 pt

Thanks for trying. Unfortunately, I don't see that reply in my messages, can't see the original post, and can't create a new introduction because I already posted one.

[–] 6 pts

Don't let the wooden door hit you on the way out.

[–] 2 pts

We have only the finest of modern hermetically sealed steel doors here. Those wooden doors are for kids.

[–] 2 pts

Stainless steel?

[–] 3 pts

Nah, just good old fashioned American Steel. You want a fancy finish, then paint it.

[–] 1 pt

No one gets out through the wooden door you antisemite. The proper expression should be 'don't let the oven door hit you on the way out'.

[–] 4 pts (edited )

Refugee? That sounds like a word made up by liberals to allow criminals across the border. I came from voat too but I ain't no fucking refugee lmao. They aren't even really hoops. Your just being weak. Denounce the jew and all it's sins. That's all.

[–] 4 pts

Voat's still active in case you want to return...all the other pedo neck beards are still there, still infighting and fag posting.

[–] 1 pt

I believe they are not accepting new users at the moment.

[–] 4 pts

Oh Nooooosssse, 12 posts in 2 years, whatever will we do with out you? I for one will really miss your input. Farewell then friend. Just click on your user name at the top right of the screen and then the little gear icon. Then delete account right there at the bottom.

Bye!!!!!

[–] 1 pt

He might have had more, when an account gets banned al the updoots given get wiped, I came here back when putt did a banwave for his pet sycophants, that he had to shamefully reverse after he got caught, and I've probably had multiple hundred of points wiped out because of user bans here on poal, if he was more active a couple years back I could see how he'd be frustrated.

That said I never had to do an intro, it's annoying, but ahead of the election shills are going wild, hell, a lot of power users are shills or fall for retarded psy-ops constantly, So I get wanting to get a lock on that, OP likely doesn't browse comments enough or the site enough to know how badly infiltrated communities like this are.

I you had been paying attention OP you would understand why this is probably the best simple move AOU can make.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

You lose your points but not your post and comment count.

[–] 7 pts

That really doesn't seem low on his end, 12 posts and a few hundred comments for a 2 year member that has had an absence, I get the suspicion but if you've ever administered a web page or a forum you'll know about the 80/20 rule, 80% of activity comes from 20% of users, 80% of new posts or threads comes from 20% of that first 20%, those are power users. I might be in the top 20% of commenters and that means 80% of users should be commenting much less than me, when you go looking the other way from power users you start finding lurkers and those people are the majority of your websites visitors, I'd bet more than half the people who would say they visit poal every day and have been doing so for a year or more don't even have accounts.

If you had upvotes from users who then get banned, you lose the internet points that you got from them.

[–] 1 pt

when an account gets banned al the updoots given get wiped

That's inaccurate. Votes only get cancelled when the account was specifically used for vote gaming.

[–] 2 pts

If everyone here was like you there would be no point having it at all. You're just too damn lazy to participate, and like everyone to do the work for you so you can look like a researching hero to your buddies. Adios.

[–] 1 pt

Ok, you've got me, What's the best way to kill sumac weeds?

[–] 1 pt

Right? I also have sumac weeds. I just keep on mowing them but they just keep coming back.

[–] 1 pt

You might find crossbow cheaper under the name Garlon-4. It's the same stuff.

[–] 1 pt

I was going to suggest Crossbow. It's a mixture of 2,4-d and triclopyr. It's nasty stuff, but it kills like nothing else and harms the roots. It can kill 4 inch saplings through thin bark, but doesn't do much to grass.

It helps if you can cut down anything big and brushcut smaller stuff, then wait a couple weeks for new growth apicals to form before spraying. Once you spray the swath of death, wait until new shoots or seedlings emerge and spray again. It might take a third application, but not much survives the first two.

[–] 0 pt

Thanks for the tip!

Have you tried cutting it back and blocking light to the stump? It worked with some vines on my property.

[–] 1 pt

That can work if you have small enough areas. Be careful of erosion once you defoliate.

Check this out (pdf warning) https://nrcspad.sc.egov.usda.gov/distributionCenter/pdf.aspx?productID=109

Our extension office publishes this in nicer form with pictures. It should be required reading in high school. The USDA hired this guy to study why any area cultivated by humans turns to desert. Topsoil conservation is paramount to long term human survival.

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I can't comment without making an introduction. I do so (https://poal.co/s/Introductions/662116) and label it nsfw because of language. Then I still can't comment to tell someone what to kill their sumac weeds with because I haven't actively participated in my introductory discussion that I can't even see becuse it's nsfw.

That sounds like an oversight in the system . Any user should probably be able to see their own posts regardless of nsfw status.

[–] 0 pt

That sounds like an oversight in the system

That's not. Users who are making an introduction already know they need to reach level 6 to be able to see NSFW content.

Most accounts who actually select NSFW when posting an introduction are spammers or retarded cubicle staff.

[–] 0 pt

No they don't.

I logged in and followed the path as directed. I looked at upgoat and omfg. I liked this place, but see the feeling of not mutual. You made a problem and turned me into roadkill on this site and won't own up to it.

I could create a new account, but won't.

Encouraging valid inactives to contribute and closing glownigger account creation through this method isn't going to work.

Good luck.

[–] 0 pt

Should we even allow NSFW posts in introductions? I don't understand why it would be necessary.

[–] 1 pt

Should we...

No because it's a trap for spammers and retarded cubicle staff.

[–] 1 pt

Why make your introduction post nsfw? Surely you see how that's kinda dumb if want you're trying to do is see nsfw posts, right? Yeah, yeah "nsfw because of language." but why though? Half the users here use swear words and slurs in regular posts anyway. It seems like you're just looking for something to complain about.

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