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I've been a vaccine skeptic for a while. But after Covid, and witnessing how corrupt the drug industry is (in conjunction with our government), I don't trust any vaccines.

I just had a baby, and don't want any vaccines, but my wife is not convinced that's the way to go. My options are 1) battle, or 2) convince her I'm right. Option 2 is the cleaner option.

So I'm trying to research why I would not give my baby vaccines, and the search engines obviously are all corrupted...

Clearly, when the leading vaccine scientists refuse to be debates (you know, what science actually is), you should run the other way. And then, the drug companies were able to get legal immunity from the problems their vaccines cause (but they don't cause any, right!?!?). And why are they require to go to school if they work so well with no problems? Who would fight vaccines if they were actually as effective and harmless as they say? To me, this is a no brainer based on logic alone.

But, I'd like to also provide the research. If anyone has research showing problems with vaccines, lack of problems in unvaccinated communities (like the Amish), links between vaccines and allergies, etc - I'd really appreciate seeing what you have.

Or, does anybody know where I can search for this stuff and not have it censored? I know the other side is out there, but I can't find it. Help!

I've been a vaccine skeptic for a while. But after Covid, and witnessing how corrupt the drug industry is (in conjunction with our government), I don't trust any vaccines. I just had a baby, and don't want any vaccines, but my wife is not convinced that's the way to go. My options are 1) battle, or 2) convince her I'm right. Option 2 is the cleaner option. So I'm trying to research why I would not give my baby vaccines, and the search engines obviously are all corrupted... Clearly, when the leading vaccine scientists refuse to be debates (you know, what science actually is), you should run the other way. And then, the drug companies were able to get legal immunity from the problems their vaccines cause (but they don't cause any, right!?!?). And why are they require to go to school if they work so well with no problems? Who would fight vaccines if they were actually as effective and harmless as they say? To me, this is a no brainer based on logic alone. But, I'd like to also provide the research. If anyone has research showing problems with vaccines, lack of problems in unvaccinated communities (like the Amish), links between vaccines and allergies, etc - I'd really appreciate seeing what you have. Or, does anybody know where I can search for this stuff and not have it censored? I know the other side is out there, but I can't find it. Help!

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I'm on a roller coaster with thecontrolgroup.org.

At first I though, this is about Covid vaccines and employement, which doesn't help me much.

Then I see the download page and the "Statistical Evaluation of Health Outcomes in the Unvaccinated" (full report) and I think I hit the jackpot.

Then I start reading it. On pg 8 (it says pg 8 on the page, but in the PDF its pg 10), I see "Thousands dead on day of vaccination is not concerning!" and its cited! But the citation is "if a rancher saw this he'd end up in court". What the hell kind of citation is that? Where's the citation to the study that shows all the people dying!?!?

It made a claim about VAERS and 79.4% of deaths occurring within hours, but then the citation is about VAERS reporting rules, not a link to a study showing the deaths.

I'll keep looking through it, but I don't have high hopes at this point...

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The is the main presentation; the quick, easy to understand graphs. The has the details on how they got the data.

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Thanks. I'll pick through this and see what I can put together.