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I've been a vaccine skeptic for a while. But after Covid, and witnessing how corrupt the drug industry is (in conjunction with our government), I don't trust any vaccines.

I just had a baby, and don't want any vaccines, but my wife is not convinced that's the way to go. My options are 1) battle, or 2) convince her I'm right. Option 2 is the cleaner option.

So I'm trying to research why I would not give my baby vaccines, and the search engines obviously are all corrupted...

Clearly, when the leading vaccine scientists refuse to be debates (you know, what science actually is), you should run the other way. And then, the drug companies were able to get legal immunity from the problems their vaccines cause (but they don't cause any, right!?!?). And why are they require to go to school if they work so well with no problems? Who would fight vaccines if they were actually as effective and harmless as they say? To me, this is a no brainer based on logic alone.

But, I'd like to also provide the research. If anyone has research showing problems with vaccines, lack of problems in unvaccinated communities (like the Amish), links between vaccines and allergies, etc - I'd really appreciate seeing what you have.

Or, does anybody know where I can search for this stuff and not have it censored? I know the other side is out there, but I can't find it. Help!

I've been a vaccine skeptic for a while. But after Covid, and witnessing how corrupt the drug industry is (in conjunction with our government), I don't trust any vaccines. I just had a baby, and don't want any vaccines, but my wife is not convinced that's the way to go. My options are 1) battle, or 2) convince her I'm right. Option 2 is the cleaner option. So I'm trying to research why I would not give my baby vaccines, and the search engines obviously are all corrupted... Clearly, when the leading vaccine scientists refuse to be debates (you know, what science actually is), you should run the other way. And then, the drug companies were able to get legal immunity from the problems their vaccines cause (but they don't cause any, right!?!?). And why are they require to go to school if they work so well with no problems? Who would fight vaccines if they were actually as effective and harmless as they say? To me, this is a no brainer based on logic alone. But, I'd like to also provide the research. If anyone has research showing problems with vaccines, lack of problems in unvaccinated communities (like the Amish), links between vaccines and allergies, etc - I'd really appreciate seeing what you have. Or, does anybody know where I can search for this stuff and not have it censored? I know the other side is out there, but I can't find it. Help!

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[–] • 3 pts

Read Dissolving Illusions.

[–] • 2 pts

Just ordered it.

Also, just got: "Vaxxed From Cover Up To Catastrophe" 2016, "Vaxxed 2 The Peoples Truth" 2019, and "Vaxxed Nation" 2021

I plan to watch all 3.

[–] • 0 pt

Vaxxed is a great documentary, but it sells a slight false hope your kid wont get sick if he does not gets a vax; he will, but will almost never require a doctor visit.

[–] • 1 pt

This book has convinced anyone I know of who will read it. I was vax injured at 17 and my mom and I became staunch anti-vaxxers. When we know someone is honest about learning this is the book we recommend. It's well researched and explained even though it is quite old at this point. Honestly, that helps its case.

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Yeah, being old is a good thing. We've been saying, we want to follow the conventional wisdom on raising kids from the 60-80's. I'm sure they got some stuff wrong, but it felt more honest than the advice today.

[–] • 3 pts

Also go to thecontrolgroup.org

Tl:dr: Even vitamin K shots will slightly affect your child's immune system (albeit less than a single vax dose)

[–] • 1 pt

I'm on a roller coaster with thecontrolgroup.org.

At first I though, this is about Covid vaccines and employement, which doesn't help me much.

Then I see the download page and the "Statistical Evaluation of Health Outcomes in the Unvaccinated" (full report) and I think I hit the jackpot.

Then I start reading it. On pg 8 (it says pg 8 on the page, but in the PDF its pg 10), I see "Thousands dead on day of vaccination is not concerning!" and its cited! But the citation is "if a rancher saw this he'd end up in court". What the hell kind of citation is that? Where's the citation to the study that shows all the people dying!?!?

It made a claim about VAERS and 79.4% of deaths occurring within hours, but then the citation is about VAERS reporting rules, not a link to a study showing the deaths.

I'll keep looking through it, but I don't have high hopes at this point...

[–] • 0 pt

The is the main presentation; the quick, easy to understand graphs. The has the details on how they got the data.

[–] • 0 pt

Thanks. I'll pick through this and see what I can put together.

[–] • 1 pt

Instead of giving your wife a stack of research papers, find some interviews from RFK Jr. Think he's very eloquent and convincing with his concerns over vaccines, and he's had a several victories in court to back it up. There's a lot of recent things too, so that might help.

Despite what the media says he's not "anti-vaccine", he just wants them to be studied for long term safety as rigorously as other drugs. But it hasn't happened because of politics and pharmaceutical companies having too much influence at the FDA and CDC.

I think more of an emotional appeal from someone like him be a better approach, YMMV. Plus, his site childrenshealthdefense.org has a lot of good info too, although you have to dig for it.

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No matter what your opinion is on RFK Jr’s politics, his work exposing childhood vaccines is top-notch. His website is https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

You will find virtually all the resources you need there

I’ll also say that my child is 17 months and has no vaccines. My brother had a baby three months after I did and every single person in my family has commented on how different these kids are. Mine is so alert and active and healthy and happy. His has had nothing but issues. His baby is stiff all the time and seems uncomfortable and just doesn’t have a certain level of awareness that mine has had from the very beginning.

All babies cry, but my son has been described as the happiest baby anyone has ever met. His baby is constantly crying and upset. I pray that his child can start to expel some of these toxins because it’s such a shame with the medical industry has done.

[–] • 0 pt

There's probably a sub for what you're looking for, but idk what it is. Since you can't use the search feature, I'd recommend actually using your account here, so you can in the future. In the meantime, web searches will give results for what you're seeking. Here's a direct link to a TGP article from a few days ago. It has a video:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/steve-kirsch-during-pa-state-senate-hearing-we/

[–] • 1 pt

I saw that video on Twitter in the last few days. I can find this type of content, but he says that the Amish have no autism. Where is the published study that states that? He says, the government studies the Amish, but don't produce a published paper because it goes against the narrative. Ok, then how does he know there's no autism in the Amish community? I believe he's correct, but how do I convince someone who doesn't?

[–] • 0 pt

He mentions where he got his information on the Amish in his main list of .

"I have not seen autism with the Amish," said Dr. Frank Noonan, a family practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands of Amish for a quarter-century.

"You'll find all the other stuff, but we don't find the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and that's just the way it is."

He mentions it in the article I linked above but his quick survey on makes a good point.

If vaccines aren’t triggering autism, then the number of times a parent notices autistic behaviors BEFORE a wellness visit where a vaccine is given should be comparable to the number of times AFTER the visit.

I asked 642 parents who had previously reported having an autistic child in previous surveys to fill out my survey. I received 308 responses.

66 parents reported first seeing autistic behaviors within a month AFTER a vaccine appointment.

0 parents reported first seeing autistic behaviors within a month BEFORE a vaccine appointment.

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I just subscribed to his substack and I'm looking through it. This looks to be very useful. I'll go through more tomorrow. Thanks you!!

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I'm assuming that the Amish don't get vaxxed, as a whole community. That's the connection. Autism only showed up post soc wide vax. 200 year ago, there was mental retardation at birth, physical head trauma induced mental retardation, but never anything even close to autism related. That's just a high IQ, hot take. Studies are almost always bullshit. Always look at who pays for the study, it's usually in direct correlation with the outcome. Papers, same. They're published non stop and constantly taken down post peer review, due to lack of the ability to reproduce the results. (Thank third world countries for this, zero joke.) Don't put something in your body or your child's body, that you don't know what's in it. Idk the exact sciences behind vax's ingredients, etc. But I'm no dummy. Control your woman, keep your child safe. I'm outta time, best of luck, fren.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

You should be able to sit down with her and a list of detailed facts as to why this actually harmful to the child and she should chose not to have the baby vaccinated.

One tip from a mom who knows... If you're not there, the hospital will gilt trip the mother until she gives in or very forcefully says no

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First, wait until the infant is more than a few days old. Don't shock their system the moment they enter the world.

Second, examine EACH vaccine and study its history, relevance now, etc. Each must be justified. Burden of proof is on the one arguing for it being taken, not the one objecting.