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Clearly our enemies "fight dirty". They lie, cheat, manipulate, play victim to further their causes and agendas. The trannies whine and cry and lash out in the name of being oppressed, all while being the oppressor (this applies to many other demographics of people). Money changes hands to further certain politcal actions (environmentalist freaks come to mind). All sorts of shady dealings, but they get the job done, don't they?

Christians get a bad rep for being pushovers, and it shows with the seeming snuffing out of the Christian culture and values.

With this in mind, what is said about people that walk with God taking their own shady measures in the name of doing the right thing? Is it considered wrong because of the actions taken to do so, or would the ends justify the means?

Clearly our enemies "fight dirty". They lie, cheat, manipulate, play victim to further their causes and agendas. The trannies whine and cry and lash out in the name of being oppressed, all while being the oppressor (this applies to many other demographics of people). Money changes hands to further certain politcal actions (environmentalist freaks come to mind). All sorts of shady dealings, but they get the job done, don't they? Christians get a bad rep for being pushovers, and it shows with the seeming snuffing out of the Christian culture and values. With this in mind, what is said about people that walk with God taking their own shady measures in the name of doing the right thing? Is it considered wrong because of the actions taken to do so, or would the ends justify the means?

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I understand what the phrase means (Luke 17.33) but I disagree with the interpretation of it meaning of this reality and of this life. When speaking of things that aren't necessarily so ethereal (not calling into question anyone's faith in God and Jesus Christ as I have faith myself). But also remember;

Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Ephesians 6.11-12

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Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Luke 22.36

We are told to take up armor and arms to fight specifically against not the devil himself (the ethereal as we can't fight the devil in this plane) but "rulers", "authorities" and "powers" and any sensible, any faithful, any honest interpretation of that means specifically not only those who literally govern in the government but those who are the useful idiots, the damned souls - may the Lord have mercy - those who have turned their back on righteousness, the adulterers, the idolaters, the blasphemers, the cruel, the wicked etc. Just as we are not to judge we do know through Faith how things are.

NOTE;

I am quoting The Holy Bible, I am NOT giving advice, I am NOT soliciting actions, I am NOT advocating actions of violence in any manner. Violence is bad and illegal. I do NOT condone violence.