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Clearly our enemies "fight dirty". They lie, cheat, manipulate, play victim to further their causes and agendas. The trannies whine and cry and lash out in the name of being oppressed, all while being the oppressor (this applies to many other demographics of people). Money changes hands to further certain politcal actions (environmentalist freaks come to mind). All sorts of shady dealings, but they get the job done, don't they?

Christians get a bad rep for being pushovers, and it shows with the seeming snuffing out of the Christian culture and values.

With this in mind, what is said about people that walk with God taking their own shady measures in the name of doing the right thing? Is it considered wrong because of the actions taken to do so, or would the ends justify the means?

Clearly our enemies "fight dirty". They lie, cheat, manipulate, play victim to further their causes and agendas. The trannies whine and cry and lash out in the name of being oppressed, all while being the oppressor (this applies to many other demographics of people). Money changes hands to further certain politcal actions (environmentalist freaks come to mind). All sorts of shady dealings, but they get the job done, don't they? Christians get a bad rep for being pushovers, and it shows with the seeming snuffing out of the Christian culture and values. With this in mind, what is said about people that walk with God taking their own shady measures in the name of doing the right thing? Is it considered wrong because of the actions taken to do so, or would the ends justify the means?

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[–] • 8 pts

Careful when dealing with monster lest ye become one yourself. Take the high road. Even when we loose we will win. Christ said our reward is not in this life.

[–] • 5 pts

Rational counterpoint.

The high road is suicide.

In war, the enemy gets a vote.

I will happily sin and condemn myself if it means the salvation of my children.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

The high road is suicide.

Ye of little faith.

[–] • 1 pt

I've seen the fruits of modern Christendom. I have very little faith.

[–] • 0 pt

Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

[–] • 2 pts

That's out of context. What Jesus was talking about there is your soul life and the ultimate end of keeping it. The soul life is your mind, will, and emotions. If you keep it, it will be destroyed in gehenna (all the things you want, the thoughts you think related to these evil desires, and all the emotions associated with them will come to an end.). If you give up such a thing, you will find the real soul life that you're supposed to have. This is a life where God is included and immorality is not something you desire to do. God will not be putting an end to such a life.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

I understand what the phrase means (Luke 17.33) but I disagree with the interpretation of it meaning of this reality and of this life. When speaking of things that aren't necessarily so ethereal (not calling into question anyone's faith in God and Jesus Christ as I have faith myself). But also remember;

Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Ephesians 6.11-12

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Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Luke 22.36

We are told to take up armor and arms to fight specifically against not the devil himself (the ethereal as we can't fight the devil in this plane) but "rulers", "authorities" and "powers" and any sensible, any faithful, any honest interpretation of that means specifically not only those who literally govern in the government but those who are the useful idiots, the damned souls - may the Lord have mercy - those who have turned their back on righteousness, the adulterers, the idolaters, the blasphemers, the cruel, the wicked etc. Just as we are not to judge we do know through Faith how things are.

NOTE;

I am quoting The Holy Bible, I am NOT giving advice, I am NOT soliciting actions, I am NOT advocating actions of violence in any manner. Violence is bad and illegal. I do NOT condone violence.

[–] • 1 pt

This is a good example of "Christian" fatalism, jesus told his disciples to buy swords to fight off those who would persecute them, There is a historical context to weapons that you might miss there, a sword isn't a simple or cheap weapon, most would use staff, a spear, a dagger, a club, a sling or a bow, all significantly cheaper weapons than a sword, sword also establishes your intent to self defense much better than those weapons.

Christianity and individualism met and slowly social responsibility was abandoned by them and as the church and society declined they judged the sinners from their shrinking churches forsaking future generations and thinking there could be no other way as end times prophecy declares the faith will be forgotten in the end. Like stupid deer caught in headlights, a self fulfilling prophecy of lip service Christians.

[–] • 1 pt

Jesus and his followers lived in Israel/Judah where there was sane and reasonable laws and teachings in place for the most part. Jews have always taught that if someone comes to kill you, you should kill him first. The turn the other cheek thing is taking a disrespectful smack to the face not someone trying to kill you.

[–] • 0 pt

The question was about sinking to their level and 'fighting dirty'. Im not saying dont oppose injustice or just give up. Im saying do your best and be ok with not doing what they do to you, back to them, even if it means loosing.

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

What mortal sin is there by which they fight dirty that might benefit us in our turn?

Even conquest is no mortal sin lest you disgrace Constantine and the end of Christian persecution, war and disdain, rebuke and chastisement, these are not sins, lusts and hatred our outside our purview, not guile, random violence is out but not mockery and misgendering.

To overcome your enemy through guile is no sin, perhaps a policy of abortion stands out among the mortal sins to tamp down our foe's number, perverting them with lusts wouldn't benefit us in a meaningful way, I maintain coarse language is not necessarily a sin.

What dirty tactic? lying? Say what you mean or don't say it publicly.

[–] • 1 pt

My conundrum is defining the high road itself, toeing the line between not accepting that which is wicked and doing something about said wicked without becoming so ourselves. What is our equivalent of table-flipping?

[–] • 1 pt

Careful when dealing with monster lest ye become one yourself.

Friedrich Nietzsche for anyone who wants to read more.

[–] • 4 pts (edited )

The dilemma with the Christian faith and civil matters is its always best to take the high road. However, most Christians today aren't taking something else into consideration. The Law of Land is something we must obey. The Bible is very clear on that, but our Founding Fathers were literal geniuses. The provisions they outlined in our founding documents, for the first time in history, give us the moral right to fight back against a tyrannical illegitimate force or sect within our government. So by following the Bible we can obey it and take back our country without it being morally compromising on the religious part. Epic.

[–] • 4 pts (edited )

Well. I tell you one thing. The past few years we’ve all seen crazy lunacy from the left. And cheer when “our side” does the right thing and succeeds. Such as that smiling pro life faggot winning tons of money from cnn. Kyle rittendajew. The Jan 6 shaman guy.. meh released after years of unjustified imprisonment (I’d sue the bejesus out of everyone involved). We’ve also seen impeachment deflections. Stories narratives fall apart. But nowhere. Is the country getting any better. While we fight on one front, the other trans agenda makes headwind. We oppose that, Biden send our money to corrupt pedos over seas. We win, but not where it really matters. We can cheer be be righteous by doing the right thing and succeeding.
But it’s not working. The NWO has planned for us fighting clean and just. God forbade us because we allowed this evil into the country when at the time we knew we should have caught the little fight then. Now at the abyss’s edge of the west. We see there’s nothing left standing between the global enslavement of humanity and liberty. Because we dont know how to fight this enemy.
The crusades won Europe and took over the holy land. Because we stuck together and steam rolled nigger moors and Islamic sand niggers out of the land. But that time we didn’t have poisonous food and water. No planes flying over head spraying fag legit spray. Trans gender wasn’t a word back then. Mental fuckery maximized. Women allowed to vote “are you out of your fucking mind”. jews we known to humanity as filth. We killed everything in our path. It was dirty but necessary. This time is we are dying and half of us don’t even know it. The “great awakening” is when the dr tells you, you have terminal cancer. That’s the awakening fren. Nobody is coming. To save us. Death is the future. Enslavement is our past and future. All one can do is enjoy life. And slap a few niggers on your way down when the time comes. If it comes. Sooner or later the boiling water that kills the front renders the frog unconscious. I think we are about there.

[–] • 3 pts

I won't lie, manipulate, or cheat. It's both against my personal ethics and completely unnecessary - because I argue from a point of truth (historical / social / economic / etc).

But, what gets me in trouble is I refuse to use "the approved" language. I call them tranny and fag. I'm normal, not "cis" or whatever that nonsense is. A dude who chops his dick off and wears a dress is still a dude.

Language is important. Never give up an inch on language.

[–] • 2 pts

Repaying evil with evil seems to be at odds with concepts like those in Matthew 5:38-48 and 22:36-40. Also Romans 12:17-21 if you accept post-Gospel philosophy.

[–] • 0 pt

If I recall, Matthew 5:38-42 have to do with Roman law at the time. Turning the other cheek and walking the extra mile would get Roman soldiers in trouble with their superiors, as it violated law and/or social contract of the time. Mistreatment of slaves, maybe.

Get middle men in hot water with those they work for. Scald their feet while their hair's on fire!

[–] • 2 pts

Puritanism is not Christianity. The US-based concepy of Christianity avoids a thousand years of history to get to the conclusion that Protestantism is the way, because its the way their country was founded.

You can be shady as you like as long as you follow the laws of God. Italian Sicilian mafia was famous for being extremely righteous and only breaking man-made laws. It went sideways in NY because they degenerated.

The ends never justify the means.

[–] • 2 pts

Ends do not justify means, nor do means justify ends.

The ends and the means must be just.

[–] • 2 pts

What part of "Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will put ten thousand to flight; your enemies will fall before you by the sword" you do not understand?

[–] • 0 pt

...I've never read/heard that before....

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Vengeance is Mine, and recompense; Their foot shall slip in due time; For the day of their calamity is at hand, And the things to come hasten upon them.

Deuteronomy 32:35

[–] • 1 pt

Jesus fought a guerilla ideological war and used violence in moderation.

Wit is no sin, to subvert and undermine the subversives who persecute us is no sin.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

Christians are not cucks. Only the jew corrupted version of Christianity is cucked. Translate the original Greek!

"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords."

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