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I box and am gonna be getting into amateur fights within the next year or so and want to do a testosterone enanthate cycle this spring. I only plan to do just one and then stay all natural afterward. I know about the pct (post- cycle therapy) required and I plan on getting some clomid for that. Anyone have any insight? Or reasons why I’m retarded?

I box and am gonna be getting into amateur fights within the next year or so and want to do a testosterone enanthate cycle this spring. I only plan to do just one and then stay all natural afterward. I know about the pct (post- cycle therapy) required and I plan on getting some clomid for that. Anyone have any insight? Or reasons why I’m retarded?

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[–] 5 pts

dont do it. squat and eat food high in protein and avoid sex 2 weeks before a fight.

i take natural supplements to help naturally boost my testosterone and it works well. while i do not fight, i do train on a bag bare knuckle and over the past year, i have felt amazing and feel that i could inflict some serious pain on whoever decides to fuck around.

just my two cents so take it for what it is worth. good luck with your fights either way.

[–] 1 pt

You need to train in both ground fighting and striking, or something that combines both.

[–] 1 pt

yeah, man, i know that i need to work on the floor but i hate grappling. i'm not good at it. at all. when it comes to the floor, i clearly don't have enough lead in my pencil, but that only makes the point further that i do need training in tht area.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

If you are already strong you can become better than 99% of your potential opponents by training for a couple of months. You don't have to become a Brazilian jujitsu master. You just need to be able to win against a large, untrained pavement ape or donut eating ZOG jackboot 1:1.

[–] 1 pt

What natural supplements?

[–] 1 pt

i take T male from natures plus max steel steel libido (i am older man, but i still have a job to do) prenatal gummies protein shake i also take vigrx, which goes hand in hand with max steel..

all these things i have to be careful with, because i can get aggressive at times, but as long as i work out, i am ok

[–] 5 pts

The real question is why do you feel the need? Boosting artificially will only weaken your natural systems.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

Yeah I know it temporarily messes up your natural testosterone production but with the pct it comes back relatively quickly. But I wouldn’t want to do it regularly. That’s when bad things start to happen to you hormones. I’d just like to get 10 lbs+ of muscule in 3-4 months and then stop. I’ve got a good build already but to gain that kind of mass on will take a 1-2 years otherwise

[–] 1 pt

10 lbs muscle in 3-4 months

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah That's some heavy dosing if you gain that much but even then questionable. If you're doing anabolics, sure, but just Testosterone? Seems high.

[–] 1 pt

That’s what I’ve heard but idk. I read someone even say 15-20 lbs if it’s your first cycle but If I did it I’d do 400 mg a week. So a high beginner dose, but not necessarily a high dose

[–] 1 pt

I took a lot of that shit back in the day. Dianabol was wild, I gained around 30 pounds in three months. Everyone was suspicious that I was on stuff. It was almost all water weight and when I went off of it I kept around 7 pounds. Later I did sustanon 250 and Ganabol and (my favorite) Turinabol. I only did 12 weeks on each of them with a clomid PCT. I'm glad I did it. I was swole when I met my now wife and we have a happy life. I've been off it all for a decade but I can work out now for 6 weeks and people ask me what gym I go to. Some of the gains stick around. I was a scrawny, gangly fuck before I started messing around with that stuff.

[–] 4 pts

I've never done it but I heard it's hard to stop once you've started. Also it's completely illegal in my country if you're not a girl who wants to be a boy. So it would mean that it would come from the black market which I don't trust.

[–] 3 pts

stay natural afterward

Once unnatural always...

[–] 2 pts

Or reasons why I’m retarded?

I can think of two. One, you're fucking with your body chemistry unnecessarily. Sure you can take pills for the side effects but what if those have side effects? If you're not careful you'll get stuck in a cycle and become yet another sick, miserable cash cow for the pharmaceutical industrial complex.

Two, you'd be cheating and that means nothing you accomplish really counts. You should just stop masturbating if you want to boost your testosterone.

[–] 2 pts

test was the most enjoyable substance ive taken. it changes far more than mere muscles. Godspeed.

[–] 1 pt

Can you elaborate? I’m interested in hearing personal experiences. The good and the bad

[–] 2 pts

Better sleep, stronger mind, unshakable confidence, very driven to achieve, greater sense of wellbeing and ability to handle stressful challenges. its like ripping apart the matrix. life becomes easy. once youre big you will see chicks stare as you walk by, lick their lips or flick their hair. random dudes want to be your best buddy. everyone treats you with respect or shuts the fuck up when youre around them. i was doing a bit more than test, but this holds true if you get big for social effects and all the mental effects are gained thru test alone. you will never see life the same so beware.

[–] 1 pt

Could you tell us more in a standalone post? Interested

[–] 1 pt

I appreciate that. Only real drawbacks would be the recovery once the cycle is over?

[–] 2 pts

I roided for about 3 years non-stop, blasting and cruising. Had a good physique but overall it wasn't worth it, I still look good and get compliments without any drugs and I'm generally not insecure enough to feel like I need them. Doing one cycle is pointless, you have to understand that it's all temporary, the only reason to roid is if you're committed to that lifestyle long term, the serious guys all do very long cycles or blast/cruise. Doing one cycle you'll gain maybe 10lbs of muscle, 10lbs of bloat, then you'll spend a couple of months losing it all afterwards and if you're lucky you'll be back where you started. I never did PCT, but maybe I just had good genetics. I just stopped cold turkey and I still have decent test levels and a good natty physique.

[–] 1 pt

I take a cruising dose of sus250 constantly. Every man over 40 should.

What's your question though? Tips I've learned are to use 25g 16mm needles, into the thigh, make sure you aspirate.

[–] 0 pt

Listen to drowning pool. Jump up and down monkey stomp. Manifest it

[–] 0 pt

You shouldn't bother with that kind of stuff for amateur level competition. Boxing isn't going to be paying your bills so why bother looking for a hormonal edge.

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I never considered an edge necessarily. I just want to match the size of some of the guys I’ll be fighting .