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Can we build a database of info that proves the simple statement that taking the jab once was the wrong choice? Is there enough info out there to convince a reasonable person, but one that has to get through the cognitive dissonance?

I think we could do this with the simple argument that there was no way to know that it was safe long term because, well, simple logic.
But that's not enough, in this case.

So can we compile times that we were knowingly lied to? Can we compile actual evidence of deaths related to the jab? General signal, isn't enough. I need numbers and data. This person is a little autistic in this sense.

I'm aware of some of these things but I'm sure there are many not on my radar. So crazy that so many people thought this was the right thing to do.

Can we build a database of info that proves the simple statement that taking the jab once was the wrong choice? Is there enough info out there to convince a reasonable person, but one that has to get through the cognitive dissonance? I think we could do this with the simple argument that there was no way to know that it was safe long term because, well, simple logic. But that's not enough, in this case. So can we compile times that we were knowingly lied to? Can we compile actual evidence of deaths related to the jab? General signal, isn't enough. I need numbers and data. This person is a little autistic in this sense. I'm aware of some of these things but I'm sure there are many not on my radar. So crazy that so many people thought this was the right thing to do.

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[–] • 11 pts

Just wait. They'll suddenly find out.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

BAFFLED

[–] • 1 pt

All I know is it's not the vaxx. No sir.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

How can it be?!

It's safely effectivismnicitational!

[–] • 2 pts

I like your subtlety there.

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For The Life Of Me Good Sir I Honestly Have No Idea What You're Talking About.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

You cannot reason people out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. They are emotionally invested in the clot-shot and, for their own mental health, have to continue believing it is safe.

They can be emotionally traumatized out of it. Dead sportsballers have that effect.

Superbowl is next weekend. Probably "brought to you by Pfizer." What happens if someone collapses on the field and that ad airs?

[–] • 2 pts

This^

Being brainwashed into believing bullshit has nothing to do with intelligence or lack thereof. The reason that brainwashing works at all is precisely because it methodically bypasses anything having to do with intelligence or reason.

It's done on the emotional level, generally by fear/trauma. It's literally evil witchcraft.

It's really terrible because this means that people who are brainwashed and educated, then fuck themselves further because their own arrogance (from being educated) shields the brainwashing from any reasoned, outside argument against whatever it is they're brainwashed to believe.

An educated dissident who is aware of and then opposes the brainwashing is also fucked more often than not because they believe that another educated person can be convinced by reason and logic.. because they, too, don't understand that the brainwashing is impervious to such things.

I made the mistake of trying to show smart people data, and then being confused as to why it made no difference..after all, they should understand and accept data because they're smart.. right?

Being brainwashed is part of it, but the other part is that the human psyche also has protections in place. IE, cognitive dissonance is actually a protective measure, like disassociation. In other words, for a jabbed person to face the truth along with all of the implications it brings along with it, is scary. So scary, in fact, that they will lie to themselves in order not to face that truth.

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I know someone who has a high IQ who can hold his ground in intellectual interactions with me. He is a gullible faggot who believes racism is the most evil thing in the world and all that stupid shit. He digests various mainstream sources with no concept that these sources are lying propaganda. He doesn't even have the ability to call bullshit on the official 9/11 story. He's still waiting for some official mainstream source to approve of such thinking. He has clearly demonstrated to me that if a belief is not approved as okay for the populace and not fringe, then he won't believe it. He went and got 3 Murderna shots, because he read some article about how mRNA is the wave of the future that we're going to solve all kinds of medical problems with. I suppose that's true, since dead people don't have medical problems anymore.

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This is the spot I’m in. This person has many degrees, holds a high powered science job, and exists inside the machine, but they promised they would listen if I brought data. So I know all of this stuff about the pain of cognitive dissonance. I was one of those idiots and boy did it hurt when I realized how blind I was. But this person is curious about what happened and they’re waking up.

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"I was one of those idiots and boy did it hurt when I realized how blind I was." It's the kind of thing one has to go through on their own.

"But this person is curious about what happened and they’re waking up." Then let them figure it out. It's better that way anyhow.

"...they promised they would listen if I brought data." Unlikely. What they'll probably do is lord their education over you and find ways to invalidate your data.

If they were at all interested in a nuanced, data-driven take on it.. there's plenty of it out there already, catalogued and delivered by people who are actually qualified more than you or I. Dr. Malone, Dr. McCollough to name just two. Steve Kirsch, who isn't a doctor but is a professional data analytics guy. Do you really believe that this person has never heard what these gentlemen have to say about it? I highly doubt it. I'd bet you that if anything, this person you speak of has already summarily dismissed these people. The point is, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it.

And frankly, you shouldn't even be leading the horse to water. Why would you take on the burden of doing this person's research for them? And why do they feel it is your duty to do that research for them?

This motherfucker is so high and mighty and educated and all, well then he can do his own fucking research.

And keep in mind where the true burden of proof lies. They are the ones supporting the side of medical tyranny, not you. It's not on you to prove to them why medical tyranny is evil and wrong. You aren't the one trying to force them to do anything. I had no problem with idiots choosing to volunteer in a medical experiment. I think they're idiots, but then they have that right.

Where shit got twisted is when motherfuckers started telling me that I HAVE TO PARTICIPATE in that shit. So no, the burden is not on you to prove why something inherently evil (forcing a medical experiment on others) is evil. Don't fall for that burden of proof switching bullshit. The truth is actually that it's on them to prove to me that it's not evil and/or not medical tyranny.. which is impossible, because it is and it is. The common sense fact of the matter is that if it were so objectively good, you wouldn't have to try to force people to do it with a gun to their head. Period. There is no getting around that fact.

The most I do anymore is make little subtle comments when they start noticing things I told them 3 years ago.

Like "Yeah, I know. Remember, I told you this three years ago. It's ok, you'll figure it all out at some point."

And then I walk away.

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Nothing will happen. People drinking their stevia laden diet sodas and fat soaked doritos won't notice shit. Except whether they have enough weed to get through the rest of the day that is.

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If Mahomes collapsed, that would be the most impactful thing. He's a rising star that has already won a Super Bowl, one of the elite quarterbacks of a new generation following the Brees/Brady/Manning era. Rodgers is a sort of late arrival to that group. Mahomes is half black, so we can finally give niggers full black credit for a half-breed elite QB.

[–] • 5 pts

Show them

[–] • 3 pts

If they are autistic but can't see that the jab is the wrong idea they aren't the kind of autistic you can teach, they are the pant shitting, helmet, and tard wrangler kind.

[–] • 3 pts

Go look at the subs, vax, the Wuhan Flu, etc. Plenty of material.

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If they could have been convinced, they already would have. Those that still believe in the jab are immune to facts.

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I came here to say this. They lack the logic and reasoning to ever reach a conclusion about anything on their own.

They definitely don't give two fuck about numbers and databases.

[–] • 0 pt

What about this. Turn the tables. Require of him to prove that that the vaccines are harmless and effective. Require hard evidence and not some crappy cuz MSM said so.

After a week searching, i.e. of red pilling himself, he will show up crying telling you he's sorry and he didn't know better begging you to forgive him.

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If overwhelming evidence still isn't enough, then OP will have to appeal to emotions. You'll have to cut deep.

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Good luck walking through the emotional minefield of a brainwashed moron. They're just looking to connect anything to one of their emotional mines.

"I don't think we can trust drug companies." Errr muh gerd, you're anti-vaxxxxxx. You're a Nazi, racist, Trump-supporter that doesn't believe in how wonderful vaccines are!

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That's actually the description I'm looking for but with big, round, admiring eyes.

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I'm no expert at communicating with morons. I generally know them to discount any source that isn't mainstream propaganda. The propaganda ministry has trained them to dismiss all information not coming from a ministry-approved source is "misinformation." It doesn't matter how much you compile, it's all "misinformation" coming from bad sources. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to get my 5th booster.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I think most of em are on the

"Owwwmaigoooowaad stoowap talkinkaboudid arrreddy?! Eeets ohhhvahhhh gitoverrit arreddy jaysus!!"

Tip

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I hope most of those people are paid pharma shills

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Most people I know got the jabs so they could eat in restaurants or travel. They wouldn't read a thing or listen to anyone's argument against them no matter what evidence was provided. They have to learn the hard way.

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