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I suspect any spiritual good she experiences will be deemed a Pagan god in her eyes. She's told me of experiences regarding getting nosebleeds from painting the entities she sees. Demonic as hell, but she doesn't believe me.

When we have such debates, my arguments are weak to the point where I wonder if I'm wrong. And I know I haven't done the reading. So I'm trying to fix the problem.

Thanks for the recommendations.

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No, you’re right. She’s wrong. Whether or not you can articulate it or feel confident in your debating skills is irrelevant to that point.

It doesn’t mean that you can’t or shouldn’t sharpen those skills, to be clear.

I’m just saying that your skill or lack thereof in that area is not going to be what ultimately saves her or not.

I actually have a very good friend in the same boat as your friend.

Ultimately, neither you or I can do what only God can do - which is to show her beyond a shadow of doubt the truth. So I do not take the burden of God’s duties upon myself, and neither should you.

Our job is to proclaim the gospel, not to argue it to people whose eyes and ears are closed. If someone tells me that the sky is green and the grass is blue, I’m not going to argue with them.

Beyond that, the best we can do is focus on living a good example and pray for God to awaken them.

And I don’t know about you, but I have plenty of work to do on myself in that regard anyhow. I constantly fail at living a proper example, but it’s something I fight for and will continue to fight for every day.

That’s not to say I have made no progress, either. I have, but there is more to be made. I want to be a man who when people look at me and my life, they want what I have. To where I don’t need to try and convince them that my theological beliefs are correct, rather, they notice that I have something far beyond what they have and so they inquire of their own volition and curiosity.

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Fair point, best not to waste my breath.

I still tell her I pray for her. I mean it, and it triggers her :)

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It’s not triggering HER per se, it triggers the demons who have enslaved her and use her physical body to manifest their own desires.

Man I could give you some examples of this sort of thing. Once you really realize the demonic reality, your worldview changes.

About a month ago, my fiancée and I went to get lunch. She went into this place to make her order and there was a tranny working behind the booth. She started praying for the person under her breath..perhaps even within her mind only. In any case, it wasn’t physically audible..but spiritually it was like a bomb went off. There was a definite reaction from the person.

They ran off into the back in the middle of the interaction, obviously very disturbed.

She then started praying in the spirit, and it just made the person’s reaction more intense.

I say “the person’s reaction”, but it was really the demon’s reaction being manifested through the person.

That stuff is real, despite many modern denominations’ best efforts to pretend otherwise.

Read the New Testament. One could easily argue that Jesus cast demons off of people more than he did anything else. Those things weren’t written by accident.

To that point, I believe his first miracle was actually delivering someone from an evil spirit. It’s what first put him on the map and got people talking about him.

A man in the synagogue started manifesting an evil spirit, and Jesus told it to shut up and leave the man..and it did as it was told…which amazed the people because up until that point, the hebrews knew that evil spirits existed but really had no way to deal with them except to execute people who were far too gone (hence certain sins requiring the death penalty in the Old Testament). Deliverance wasn’t even available until Christ arrived.