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[–] 15 pts

If it's truly victimless, it's not really a crime. It's a made-up crime, such as don't park here between the hours of 12 and 6. Even in these cases, it is often possible to find a victim somethere. For example, if cars are parked along a street night and day, maybe it can't be cleaned properly and gets dirty or the snow can't be removed, and the people who live on the street suffer. If there's a sign that says "Dont walk on the grass" and you walk on the grass, maybe it kills the grass, and the person who owns the property has to pay to have the grass replaced. That sort of thing. But if there is truly no victim, then there is (in my opinion) no real crime. I'm sure Blackstone would agree with me.

[–] 2 pts

However any place where "victimless" crimes of drug dealing, drug use, prostitution or even loitering is allowed becomes a shithole of pimps, petty thieves, zombie addicts and cruising creeps. Property values plummet for miles around, graffiti is everywhere, cars are broken into and stolen. It all becomes Section 8 housing and boarded up store fronts. What was once poor but functional neighborhood becomes a ghetto. That is a crime against society if not against an individual.

[–] 3 pts

Drug dealing is certainly not a victimless crime.

[–] 3 pts

Pfizer execs should be in jail

[–] 1 pt

Depends on your perspective. The guy down the street that will sell you a bit of pot or whatever, who is unknown by most (so no gang attacks on him or whatever) is a victimless crime.. At least, when you are true libertarian type that believes you should have access to things like pot and if you hurt yourself with it, that was your choice.

[–] 1 pt

I dont know. Where drug use is legal the cannibis shops are not surrounded by theives.

In canada the weed bars where u can go and smoke dont seem to have criminal problems.

Countries where prostitution is legal those "red light" areas are typically crawling with cops.

Now where loitering is decriminalized those places are full of homeless and junkies which is typically criminals. So you got something there.

[–] 3 pts

"Victimless" crimes often just lead to more bad shit or are often associated with crimes involving direct victims. Like prostitution. Technically between two consenting adults, but women are often trafficked into prostitution, and men thatl pay for that are usually looking for discretion because they are married or something. So there's almost always indirect victims to "Victimless crimes"

[–] 2 pts

I've spoken to a couple of girls who sold themselves after a 'boyfriend' got them hooked on drugs and then turned her out in exchange for drugs.

Did she choose to sell herself, yes but no. It's complicated and none of it is good. A healthy normally adjusted woman does not choose to sell her body.

[–] 3 pts (edited )

depends what's included in that term: 'victimless crime'.

[–] 2 pts

Victims are faggots and crime wouldn't be inclusive if they weren't involved

[–] 2 pts

What kind of crime is victimless?

[–] 3 pts

Speeding.

Rolling through a stop light.

Smoking a joint.

Doing a line of cocaine.

Shooting up heroin.

Paying for a blowjob from a consenting adult.

Posting unpopular opinions on the Internet.

Saying the Holocaust was fake.

Etc.

[–] 4 pts

I feel like every almost every motorized vehicle these days is capable of moving faster than a negro is capable of thinking. A nigger on a bicycle is a crime.

[–] 4 pts

A nigger on a bicycle is a crime.

Well, sure, because he stole the bicycle.

[–] 1 pt

Speeding is a victimless crime until you cause an accident. It's not so black and white.

[–] 2 pts

100 million drivers speed everyday. The odds of the speeding, itself, causing an accident is pretty low.

Cell phones in cars are much more dangerous.

And.. of course... the government isn't looking to make you safe, it's looking to make money off of you.

If the government cared even a tiny little bit about its citizens safety, maybe I'd change my tune on speeding. But, as it stands, most of it is about trampling your rights and making you feel okay about it.

[–] 1 pt

Ah, but the accident is the crime (property damage, bodily injury, manslaughter) and not the speeding.

[–] 0 pt

And pointing a loaded gun at people in a crowd is victimless if you don't pull the trigger, right?

I think you need to reconsider this list.

The first five impact others. I don't wanna hear shit about privacy of your own home. It does.

As far as prostitution, I'd rather not live in a society where girls grow up and aspire only to sell pussy.

The last two are not crimes.

[–] 3 pts

Having a 30 round magazine in some states

[–] 2 pts

Carrying a firearm I would class as a victimless crime. Not wearing a seatbelt. Not wearing a bike helmet.

[–] 0 pt (edited )

A gram joint of bud in your luggage from your trip to Colorado, enjoy it few weeks later back home on your deck, in prohibition state. ...or accidentally forget about it, then throw it away when you find it back home- smuggler.

[–] 1 pt

There is no such thing. If there is no victim or reasonable expectation that ones actions could create one. Crime does not exist.

This is why you have vice cops, and real cops. As the biggest example.

[–] 1 pt

A truly victimless crime should be no crime but most supposedly victimless crimes undermine the whole of civilization and society.